Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:49:37 +0100 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Trent Waddington <s337240@student.uq.edu.au>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010305004222.00cfe2a0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:45:21AM -0700 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010303132348.04461420@localhost> <Pine.OSF.4.30.0103040637000.3518-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305004222.00cfe2a0@localhost>
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> >Dude, the Grateful Dead were popularising tape trading before they were > >popular, circa 1973. > > D00d, John Perry Barlow didn't go on his anti-copright crusade until years > later -- after he had made quite a lot of money from the sale of Grateful > Dead albums. (The Dead did decide not to try to stop trading of live > performance tapes, since they couldn't really do much about it anyhow. They not only did not try to stop it, they allowed fans to plug their equipment into their soundboards. Many of those tapes, some going back to the 1960s, are of astonishingly good quality. Other bands have been doing this in recent years, but the Dead were the first and for many years the only ones, and it did bring them into direct conflict with their record companies. They never made much money from album sales, but were one of the biggest concert-grossing bands of all time -- which itself would make their record labels unhappy... > But they NEVER tolerated trading of copies of their published albums.) True. I'm not sure what Barlow's stand is on that today -- but he only wrote lyrics to a smallish minority of their songs. I would argue, though, that back in the 1960s and 1970s people weren't so worried that this whole IP thing is getting out of control. Today, when you have a situation where doctors can actually patent surgical techniques and then sue other doctors for using those techniques to treat patients, many people feel emboldened to take a much more aggressive stance against intellectual property in general. --Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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