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Date:      Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:04:41 +0100
From:      "Markie" <mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 -> 5.2.1, drop in hard diskornetworkperformance?
Message-ID:  <000d01c4293b$ec995ea0$f700000a@ape>
References:  <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGIEKFFMAA.Barbish3@adelphia.net> <000e01c42935$d2f2a7a0$f700000a@ape>

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Markie" <mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com>
To: <Barbish3@adelphia.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 -> 5.2.1, drop in hard
diskornetworkperformance?


|
|
| | -----Original Message-----
| | From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
| | [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Markie
| | Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 PM
| | To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
| | Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 -> 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
| | ornetworkperformance?
| |
| |
| | ----- Original Message -----
| | From: "Markie" <mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com>
| | To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
| | Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:53 PM
| | Subject: Home server upgrade 4.9 -> 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or
| | networkperformance?
| |
| |
| | | Hello everyone!
| | |
| | | I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after
| | having a
| | few
| | | problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).
| | |
| | | Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still
| | reliably
| | make
| | | the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure
| | the
| | | problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has
| | anyone got
| | | any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for
| | the
| | | internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is
| | attached
| | to
| | | is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).
| | |
| | | I can't really think of any other information to provide right now
| | but I
| | | really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit
| | of
| | help!
| | | My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get
| | any
| | | replies if I remember rightly :o)
| | |
| | | Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it
| | really
| | did
| | | seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took
| | agessssss
| | | to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am
| | supposed to
| | | tweak here?
| | | I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like
| | to avoid
| | | that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have
| | any
| | | numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a
| | hell of
| | | alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried
| | to ssh
| | in
| | | from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing
| | (apparently)
| | | nothing!
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| |
| | Well I was just using bmon from ports to monitor the speed and
| | copying a
| | file to the box over samba is dramatically slower than copying from
| | it:
| |
| | Copying a 1.5gig backup tar from the freebsd machine to my box is
| | around
| | 6-7 meg a second
| | Copying a 600 odd meg file to the freebsd machine from my box is
| | around
| | only 1-2 meg a second!
| |
| | I do seem to remember having this kind of problem ages ago when I
| | used
| | Linux. Before installing 5.2.1 I did enable plug and play in BIOS
| | (it hung
| | with that turned on using 4.9, not with 5.2.1 though) so I will try
| | disabling that either later or tomorrow morning to see if that fixes
| | my
| | issue! Could it be that which is causing it?
| |
| | Other than that I don't think I have had any major issues with the
| | install
| | yet :o) Well... except for it didn't solve my hard lockup problem
| | like I
| | hoped it would have. Seems like it isn't a hard disk performance
| | drop
| | though :o)
| |
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net>
| To: "Markie" <mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com>
| Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:33 PM
| Subject: RE: Home server upgrade 4.9 -> 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
| ornetworkperformance?
|
|
| | Release 5.x uses an new file system which many people have reported
| | noticeable performance problems and hard disk sector lock outs. Keep
| | in mind that all the 5.x version are full of new experimental code.
| | If performance and reliability is requirement you need on your
| | servers then only use the stable versions of FreeBSD. 4.9 is the
| | current production stable version, 4.10 beta is available now and in
| | 2 weeks 4.10 is scheduled to be released becoming the official
| | current production stable version.
|
| Yeah I realise that. I just find it a bit strange that it pulls off the
| machine normal speeds but sending something over to it is really slow. I
| don't remember it being so slow on 4.9! And the untar was slow from one
| drive to the other... on seperate channels too (and that was before I
| turned off write caching :o)
|
| I am now playing about trying to figure out why the box keeps locking up
on
| me with my new modem :o( I compiled a kernel with invarients and witness
| and stuff in but... it just locks up totally! I would appreciate it if
| anyone could help me out or suggest anything at all!
|
| At the moment I am thinking perhaps the card is just bad or something. An
| old PCI 3COM Etherlink III 590 or something along those lines. I am about
| to try it on my other 5.x box with just one intel card to see if it'll
lock
| that up too. Expect more moaning from me :o)
|
| Thanks for your reply!!
|

Well! I just tried the modem on my other 5.x box and it seemed to work. It
had just an intel card in it, no apparent lockups! That made me smile :o)

I just now swapped the old 3com card in the servers box with the intel card
from that one and well... it seems to be working fine! Is this a bad driver
or bad hardware? I still have a routing problem, before I can do anything
with the internet after a new connection I have to do the following:

route delete default
route add <new internet ip>
route -n add default -iface <new internet ip>

but with this modem it appears you have to do this on openbsd and netbsd
too. I am going to hunt down a way to do it automatically :o) I will also
test the transfer rate stuff again to make sure it wasn't just that old
card doing something nasty.... although I doubt it'd be that

I will keep you informed for what it's worth :o)

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