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Date:      Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:37:22 GMT
From:      freebsd-isp@masterplan.org (Jason George)
To:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: VPN, an off topic question
Message-ID:  <199811142236.PAA05573@gongshow.masterplan.org>

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I purchased the SKIP 3 Windows software for US$100 from Sun.  It does 
indeed interoperate with the FreeBSD code.  As far as I'm concerned, the 
free Windows software available from www.skip.org is a waste of time.  
It doesn't support tunnels, and contains only the global encryption.

There are caveats for the SKIP 3 software, though.

The first is that the "electronically downloadable" version from Sun is 
the "global" (512-bit key) version.  To get the "export-controlled" 
(1024-bit key) or "US/Canada" (2048-bit key) versions, you must order 
the CD directly from SunExpress.  This is not necessarily obvious until 
_after_ Sun has electronically debited the license fee to your credit 
card.  (Getting a refund so that I can buy the 2048-bit version is 
proving to be a major pain.  I've talked to too many Sun employees and 
have over the last 3 weeks and have yet to have a suitable remedy.)

The second is that when I talked to my local Sun rep, he indicated that 
the 2048-bit version I desired was probably going to cost me ~CDN$250 
(~US$165).  So be forewarned that the strong encryption will cost a 
little more.

The third is that the "global" version only supports DES-CBC and RC2-40 
for key encryption, and RC2-40 and RC4-40 for traffic encryption.  This 
made the integration of the global Windows software into my current SKIP 
VPN setup for testing a little more of a pain in the ass.

The fourth and final caveat is that the documentation provided with the 
SKIP 3 software assumes the installing user will have some already 
significant background in broad SKIP/encryption/VPN technology.  I had 
little problem installing and configuring the Windows software only 
because I've fought a bunch of battles integrating the FreeBSD 
implementation.  Unless you're well-grounded in the underlying premises 
of encryption and secure networking, you're probably going to have a 
frustrating time getting things to work the first time.



Hope this helps.

--Jason
j.b.george<at>ieee.org
jbg<at>precident.com

>
>the commerical version will interoperate with the free SKIP code (at least
>it did a while ago according to the info on www.skip.org, i don't know
>what's new with the product right now). i looked into it but never got the
>commercial version.  the free version for win95 that was/is on the skip
>site had different encryption algorithms and won't work with the freebsd
>version.  i gave that info to somebody on this list about a year ago (or
>when ever it was that i got skip going on a few machines) and i think that
>he did indeed get the commercial CD and has stuff interoperating.  if i
>remember correctly his name was jim flowers.  you can probably find
>something in the list archives....
>
>On 13 Nov 1998, Chris Shenton wrote:
>
>> Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Yes, PPTP is about what you'd expect from Microsoft security-wise.
>> > However, it's the only instance of what the original poster asked
>> > for that runs on *Win95* that I know of..
>> 
>> I believe Sun's SKIP runs on w95, as well as NT, Solaris. Not sure if
>> that version interoperates with the free SKIP code which has been
>> ported to FreeBSD et al. 
>> 
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