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Date:      Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:30:53 -0800
From:      "Ulf Zimmermann" <ulf@z-code.ncd.com>
To:        dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <9602131630.ZM1429@zolaris.z-code.com>
In-Reply-To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) "Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD" (Feb 13, 19:20)
References:  <199602140020.TAA05047@etinc.com>

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On Feb 13, 19:20, dennis wrote:
> Subject: Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD
> >On Feb 13, 12:12, Nate Williams wrote:
> >> Subject: Frame Relay and FreeBSD
> >> I *really* like having the firewall features I'm using now.  I suppose I
> >> could simply stick my firewall box and whatever external equipment I use
> >> on a separate ethernet segment, although it would require me buying
> >> another ethernet card as well a Cisco or whatever.
> >>
> >> We're trying to do Video Conferencing, and ISDN isn't available in
> >> Montana (and won't be available for quite a while).  The only option we
> >> have is F.R., either to our ISP or directly to SRI-Menlo.
> >>
> >> What kind of costs are we looking at here for the networking equipment,
> >> etc.?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any advice you can give,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nate
> >>-- End of excerpt from Nate Williams
> >
> >So far my calculation for FR is:
> >
> >A Frame Relay card:
> >
> >ETinc.:
> >
> >ET/5025 56K/64K  $495
> >V.35/EIA-530 option (for T1) $100
> >Frame Relay/X.25 $50
> >
> >or
> >
> >ET5025-16 56K/64K  $695
> >V.35/EIA-530 option (for T1) $100 (per port)
> >Frame Relay/X.25 $200
> >Dual Port Option $100
> >
> >or
> >
> >ET5025-25 T1 incl Frame Relay   $1095
> >Dual Port Option  $200
> >
> >You need a CSU/DSU for this card, price for 56K/64K is about $250-$600, for
> >128K-1.5MB price is starting around $700 and up to $2000.
> >
> >Or you take cards from SDL Comm, which have only a Frame Relay driver for
BSDI
> >at the moment. But the cards are cheaper.
> >
> >RISCom/N2s 56K/64K $490
> >RISCom/N2d dual port 56K/64K $590
> >RISCom/N2dds dual port with one CSU/DSU on board 56K/64K $650
> >RISCom/N2csu dual port with one T1 CSU/DSU on board something around $1100
> >Frame Relay option for BSDI $150
> >
> >About monthly Frame Relay I can't say anything, but in California I would
pay
> >about $275 for 128K
>
> to clarify this....
>
> Realize that you get software and support from BSDI (its their
> software)....with our
> product you buy the software (and get the support) from us.
>
> see www.etinc.com/compare.htm for the "biased" poop.
>
>
> BTW..we sell brand-name, high quality CSU/DSUs for (56/64k) 325. and 695.
(T1)
> and lesser quality ones (still better than an on-board CSU) for $190 (56k)
and
> $300. (T1....available any day now).
>
>-- End of excerpt from dennis

Dennis,

kick your webmaster that he should update the prices ;-) On the web is still
$725 for T1. Look I have a price of $1100 from SDL Comm for a 2 port card with
CSU/DSU on board and the BSDI Frame Relay option. (Btw. they claim they are
better) Even if I take the smallest card from Etinc I have $495 (card) + $100
(V.35 option) + $50 (Frame Relay) + $695 (T1 CSU/DSU) = Total of $1340. With
only 1 port and a card there ETinc's web page is saying for 56K/64K (it is some
kind of confusing, to say 56K/64K but offer a T1 option). This $240 more then I
have from SDL Comm, but SDL has no FreeBSD driver.

I am trying at the moment to get $3000 together, so I can get me Frame Relay
(128K as it looks like at the moment). That is $1009 for PB, $500 for the
provider and rest for hardware I need.

Ulf.

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