Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:33:38 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: "Daniel J. Zaccariello" <marisombra@mindspring.com> Cc: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Message-ID: <20000503103338.C13668@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000503120218.0454aab0@pop.mindspring.com>; from marisombra@mindspring.com on Wed, May 03, 2000 at 12:09:17PM -0400 References: <4.3.2.20000503012424.00d214e0@pop.mindspring.com> <Your <4.3.1.2.20000502195211.00aa9100@mail.jpepconsulting.com> <19128.957313734@localhost> <4.3.2.20000503012424.00d214e0@pop.mindspring.com> <20000503115202.G86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> <4.3.2.20000503120218.0454aab0@pop.mindspring.com>
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* Daniel J. Zaccariello <marisombra@mindspring.com> [000503 09:40] wrote: > This doesn't show lack of comprehension by anyone but yourself. Your > attempt is laughable > > At 05/03/2000 11:52 AM Wednesday, Bill Fumerola wrote: > >On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 01:34:43AM -0400, Daniel J. Zaccariello wrote: > > > > > This reads that "if you've tried man pages, web site, etc. etc. then maybe > > > you'll find what you're looking for in #freebsd. All it says is that it > > > isn't tech support, it isn't a first choice resource. That wording is in > > > fact, NOT clear. > > > >Your lack of comprehension is astounding. > > > >Even if the FAQ said "#FreeBSD will help you with any questions and give > >you service with a smile", that would really mean shit. It's IRC. > > > > > Again, a perfectly on topic discussion blown off by none other than: > > > >- Jordan > > > >EFNet is not a resource that FreeBSD (the organization, not the operating > >system) controls, therefore, it's off-topic. > > > You can't separate the two. Besides, JKH is an op there, as are other > "heavy hitters" in the project. Yours, and JKH's attitude towards this > whole thing is deplorable, "IRC will be IRC, so let's ignore it." That's > exactly how to not have a useful conversation. You would have been better > off trying to make valid points rather than selectively read and quote from > both posts to this list and the FAQ. And you would hold slashdot responsible to the Linux community for the posters there? I also think Jordan has a lot more important stuff on his plate than policing a group of misfits whos average age is probably in the teens. I do agree that being a bit nicer would help, or perhaps even a migration allowing the more helpful people in #freebsdhelp to gain control of the channel. Although it wouldn't be as much fun. :) I sort of expected #freebsdhelp to be this empty channel with just a few people in there not being helped, I was suprised to find out that there's a lot of people in there helping each other out, in fact several #freebsd ops are also in #freebsdhelp and behave in a totally different way, there's really not much to complain about. If a user joins and asks questions and is directed to #freebsdhelp and ignores that advice they're only missing out on a good group of helpful users. And can we just end this discussion? thanks, -Alfred (one of those misfits) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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