Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:09:12 -0800 From: "Jason Nordwick" <nordwick@citycom.com> To: "Christopher S. Weimann" <cweimann@wallnet.com>, "Ed Suchocki" <esuchocki@mediaone.net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Message-ID: <007901be1c32$7dee8a00$e53c1c26@yasmeen.citycom.com>
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>Go to http://www.freebsd.org and scroll down the page till you get to >the section called "Easy to install". > These directions suck. I have often had similar questions as to how to installed from a DOS disk... like what had to be d/l and where to put it. >You now have everything you need to get FreeBSD installed. Follow the rest >of the instructions on that page to create a boot disk. This boot disk >will download everything over your modem ( or network connection if you >are that lucky ). > Doing a d/l from the boot disk is this: first it is very suseptible to modem problems and other errors (like computer going down when 90% done), second it really provides to really good feedback as to when it will be done, third, you cannot keep the d/l files for a later installed (such as I have time to d/l but not install). >I don't think I told you anything here that isn't obvious from the page. > Nothing is "obvious" from the page. Obvious to you is not obvious to me. I agree, FreeBSD, is fucking hell to learn to install. >Christopher Weimann SysAdmin Wall Internet LLC. Hmm... a sysadmin... and you think that you are even qualified to decide what is easy to install for the rest of us that don't spend our life on administating a computer? Don't say stupid shit like "I don't know how to say this..." or "obvious" until you really sit down and think... hmmm... What would a person completely new to UNIX-style system and installing OSes in general know. Arghh... I used to be a very strong FBSD prophet, but now after coming back to it after six months, my initial install of -current went horribly; half of the ports I have tried to install have had at least one problem (if not multiple, for example www/netscape45-communicator); user-PPP is a bitch to setup, use, and find information on. I could go on for a while with this list. If anybody really wants the system to get into the mainstream (I actually don't care if it does), then there are alot of changes that need to be made. If I knew anything about PPP I'd do one that could actually determine what port you are trying to use, what the authentication method is, blah blah blah. I'm getting tired of all the ego tripping around here. Everybody thinks that they have a dope-ass system under them, and there is not enough people that realize that you have to make parts easier (not dumbdown). This self- congradulatory attitude will leave FBSD in the dust. Too many people are too easily satisfied... dream a little more people. -jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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