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Date:      Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:18:32 +0100 (CET)
From:      "P.U.Kruppa" <ulrich@pukruppa.net>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Experiences with RELENG_7
Message-ID:  <20071028120311.B1571@small>
In-Reply-To: <47246BC5.3010900@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20071027202252.GA40377@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4723CD55.5090307@FreeBSD.org> <20071028000917.GC47576@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4723DB8F.8060407@FreeBSD.org> <20071028060318.W1571@small> <472462F9.7010308@FreeBSD.org> <20071028114924.G1571@small> <47246BC5.3010900@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> P.U.Kruppa wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> I'll save some top output next time. But what happened was this; all of
>>>>>> a sudden the mouse pointer started moving erratically, and the music
>>>>>> playing in audacious started skipping. All other X programs started
>>>>>> responding erratically as well. It looked like the X server wasn't
>>>>>> getting any CPU time.
>>>> I can see that happening during portupgrade on my 7.0-BETA1 FreeBSD 
>>>> 7.0-BETA1 #0: Sat Oct 27 04:15:22 CEST 2007 amd64 UP-machine as well. 
>>>> Situation has been improved by using
>>>> SCHED_ULE instead of SCHED_4BSD .
>>> 
>>> Yes, so this is a different problem again.  People have reported this 
>>> problem with 4BSD, but I don't think it is understood.  Just to confirm, 
>>> since we're discussing ULE here do you see this problem with ULE?
>> Yes, but as I said, ULE works better than 4BSD.
>
> OK, so what does "works better" mean?
This is the difficult point. Actually this is my personal and 
subjective impression.
I can explain what I would like to do:
As a typical FreeBSD "user" (probably opposed to a "developer"), 
I do upgrade base system and ports about once a week.
In the meantime I have got my work to do (usually with firefox, 
openoffice, evince, gimp and diverse mathematics tools - 
all inside my gnome enviroment).
Thus I don't care to much about upgrade performance - it should 
just run in the background and get ready some day.

But honestly, I have no idea how to quantify or benchmark this.

Uli.

>
> Kris
>
>



Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Wuppertal
Germany




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