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Date:      Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:11:37 -0600
From:      dannyman <dannyman@sasquatch.dannyland.org>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.0-RELEASE?
Message-ID:  <19980302181137.44607@urh.uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199803022341.QAA24319@mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 04:41:24PM -0700
References:  <199803022318.PAA13189@rah.star-gate.com> <199803022325.PAA14115@dingo.cdrom.com> <199803022341.QAA24319@mt.sri.com>

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On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 04:41:24PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:

> > Hah.  You forget that nobody outside the Bay area has the mbone 
> > anymore, if they ever had it in the first place.
> 
> No kidding.  Our ISP played with it for awhile (for watching NaNOG
> meetings), and gave it up.  They're now sending people to the meetings,
> since it was much cheaper and useful than using the Mbone, which is
> useless given the current 'lag' and 'loss' on the net as a whole.
> 
> PHK's 40% packet loss to CA with normal traffic would make the MBONE
> more than useless.  It would simply waste bandwidth with no gain.
> 
> That's why people who want the MBONE for research and such want their
> own private Internet back again, and are asking for grants and such to
> give them their own toy back.

Yah, the mbone works a whole lot better over the vBNS. :)

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