Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian <bri@brianwhalen.net> To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering Message-ID: <20071203103534.V6464@numail.brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: <475449B9.1010002@gmail.com> References: <200712030308.32301.david@vizion2000.net> <3BC04A18-86CD-4A93-831A-691EBD8D4A43@FreeBSD.org> <47543109.3050303@gmail.com> <7957A7E2-3ADA-4BD5-934C-F10A1F08F72F@FreeBSD.org> <47544020.5090605@gmail.com> <ADB6E4A8-DDA2-4C0A-A5E1-EF9A45A53753@FreeBSD.org> <47544727.9030209@gmail.com> <34531C67-A2F9-48DB-8161-34593AC0C481@FreeBSD.org> <475449B9.1010002@gmail.com>
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A statisticaslly valid sample will be difficult here, I mean a slashdot poll is maybe a way to reach a wide portuion of the userbase, but they all think freebsd is dead:) Some user will object no matter what you do. Even if you emailed root of every system that did a portsnap or cvsup or freebsd-update, some would be offended, though that is one way to reach large numbers. Brian On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ade Lovett wrote: >> >> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:12 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> I have about 20 responses in private email and only the ones you >>> have seen in public are in this category >> >> Enough said. There are currently ~180 people with direct access to >> the ports/ tree (ie: ports committers). > > Only 2 are self-reported maintainers and at least 5 admit to not being > maintainers... I think your main issue is you are 100% in "there is > nothing wrong" camp and for what ever reason want to convience > everyone else any effort to say/do differently is misguided. >> >> Even assuming all private email responses came from committers, >> that's an 11% hit rate. > > That is why I am planning to wait to the end of Dec. or so to report > the results in detail (and widen the audiences/forums) >> >> Which part of "statistically invalid" is not getting through here? > > A self-selected sample will never be "statically" valid *BUT* it can > be informative about what people are thinking. > > > - -- > Aryeh M. Friedman > FloSoft Systems > Developer, not business, friendly > http://www.flosoft-systems.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHVEm5358R5LPuPvsRAk4zAJ90UYdW0jfTCyxwlAXDRd2Uf58uPACfbmpS > 1NG3/ziaCXuf/4GFBxKRIQ8= > =KUFV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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