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Date:      Wed, 30 May 2001 11:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
To:        Brian Reichert <reichert@numachi.com>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: cvsup.freebsd.org I/O error
Message-ID:  <20010530111251.R71465-100000@achilles.silby.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010530110828.L78320@numachi.com>

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On Wed, 30 May 2001, Brian Reichert wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:46:04PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
> > Sounds like the DTLA series drives.. The biggest piles of junk I've seen!in
> > quite a while.
>
> Could someone give me a pointer to a current discussions concerning
> these drives?  I've been having errant hardware problems with some
> production servers, and am grasping at straws...
>
> --
> Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert		<reichert@numachi.com>

If you do a search for "IBM DTLA failure rate" on google or deja (which
would also be google, I suppose), you'll find a bunch of threads on the
issue.  The posts are divided into two types:

1.  IBM fanboys claiming that there's a conspiracy to tarnish the DTLA's
name.

2.  Posts by people who say they're on their second replacement drive, and
starting to see failure again.

So, while it's not conclusive, it appears that there's something going on.

Note that the people claiming failures say that they start as sectors
going bad.  Therefore, it seems entirely possible that those running their
DTLAs with FAT32 won't notice a problem until they have the drive nearly
full.  Those with inode based FSes would probably see strange things a bit
sooner.  Unfortunately, I don't think you can run badblocks or anything
similar right now.  Maybe someone can suggest another test method.

Mike "Silby" Silbersack


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