Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:55:58 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Bryant <jbryant@unix.tfs.net> To: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV Message-ID: <199901142056.OAA66441@unix.tfs.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901141329500.84303-100000@bright.fx.genx.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Jan 14, 99 01:33:31 pm"
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In reply: > On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Jim Bryant wrote: > > > In reply: > > > >> This sort of forwarding facility should be an option; do not make it > > > >> default! FreeBSD is used not only in US, but also all over the world, > > > >> you know. I don't think FTC would in any way like to deal with spams > > > >> outside of US. > > > >> > > > >> Kazu > > > [...] > > > >i understand your point of view, even though I disagree with it to an > > > >extent. > > > > > > Well, you seem to believe FreeBSD systems exist only in US.... > > > > actually i don't... and i agree that it should be an option. > > something that is already set up, and can be turned on with either a > > switch or by uncommenting something. > > (let's move this to -chat?) > > Since spam is mass mailing automating replies will swamp the poor folks at > FTC. > > If anything, a spam condensing local server for a region that co-odinated > with a centralized server to reduce dup'ing spam complaints (and perhaps > keep a count would be a good thing) you mean reduce the number of submissions to give a false impression that the problem isn't as bad as it really is. stop defending spammers. the more submissions, the faster something gets done. anything else would give a false impression that the problem is smaller than it really is, and thus more of the same ineffective regulation that we already have. let the reduction and counting be done by the FTC which more than probably already has such measures in place locally. let them standardize what they do with it, anything else is obstruction of justice. i'm sorry if i'm reading you wrong, but i understand how the government operates. also, anyone who doesn't take a hard-line stand on this topic can't be trusted, and is part of the problem. to not deal with spammers ruthlessly is to pander to spammers. if a million people forward a million copies of the exact same spam, but addressed to each individual that forwards it will get something done. one copy and a note saying that it went to a million people means nothing. a thousand individual spams a day forwarded by the recipients in a billon seperate submissions a day will have a new consumer-friendly/isp-friendly law passed in short order with means of enforcement. a thousand messages with a note saing that each went to a million people means nothing, and thus nothing gets done. let the FTC do the reduction. they did not ask for reduced data. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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