Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:56 +0100 From: "Stacy Olivas" <olivas@digiflux.org> To: "'Peter'" <pfak@telus.net> Cc: "'freebsd-advocacy'" <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Indecisiveness and Domain registrations Message-ID: <004f01c2c70d$faa31810$0502000a@sentinel> In-Reply-To: <004601c2c708$11ba6810$0502000a@sentinel>
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Peter.. here is the message. -Stacy > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:29:29AM -0600, Eric Anderson > > <anderson@centtech.com> wrote: > > > Anthony C. Chavez wrote: > > > >Now, not to discourage you, but I think you should know > > that hosting > > > >news about BSD-related advocacy events would be a natural > > extension for > > > >Daemon News as well. Having bsdevents could have the > > benefit of some > > > >good, healthy competition, so I'm not opposed to it. > > > > > > bsdevents.org is not a "news" site like daemonnews. It is > > for all *BSD > > > related events that are happening around the world, and > would have > > > areas to sign up to offer help for those events, and post > pictures, > > > dates and times of the upcoming events, etc. > > > > All right, I must have had my wires crossed. I stand corrected. > > > > > >However, it is my intention to put together a "to do" list for > > > >advocacy.daemonnews.org of our own, perhaps borrowing a > lot of the > > > >points from the list that was submitted to freebsd-advocacy. > > > > > > Sounds like you are duplicating work here, but makes no > > difference to > > > me. I'm specifically talking about deadlines for the > > official -advocacy > > > group, not for daemonnews. I'm just saying the person who "leads" > > > should also be able to set some goals. No one here is > > going to quit > > > their jobs to work full time on freebsd advocacy, and > > having a goal is > > > far from asking that. > > I've offered myself up as a leader for this project.. I > agree that there > *SHOULD* be some > deadlines set, otherwise the "oh, that's going to be done > tomorrow" syndrome > will set in and > NOTHING will get done. > > As far as quitting my job, that isn't likely to happen > anytime soon (since > my contract don't > run out anytime soon).. Don't worry though, work won't be an issue.. > > I propose something along the lines of this (after all, we > will be dealing > with the > media, and they like to see people in charge, with titles, > etc.. it gives > them a big > warm fuzzy feeling when they can "cut the crap" and go right > to the top of > the "food chain").. > > The FreeBSD Advocacy group should be structured as follows: > > A core team consisting of not less than 4 people, with at > least one person > as the overall "head". The core > team will be the ones who set the goals, coordinate press > releases, etc.. > (each member will have a vote on > what direction things will go in). The "head" of the team > will have an > equal vote on issues, but they will > also be able to take the initiative and have the ability to > "push" things in > a given direction (helps > keep from forming a deadlock). > > Using the four person minimum as the base model, each member > of the core > team will have specific > responsibilities to towards the adovcacy project. They are divided as > follows (to borrow some stuff from > Anthony's post on lead times, etc): > > > Team head: > Overall project management/Primary POC > Primary advocacy responsibilities: > Onlines/Slashdot > > Core team member #1: > In charge of recruting/providing assistance (direction) > to new advocates > Primary advocacy responsibilities: > Magazines > > Core team member #2: > In charge of > Primary advocacy responsibilities: > Newspapers > > Core team member #3: > In charge of > Primary advocacy responsibilities: > Trade rags > > Each core team member will have the authority to speak on > behalf of the > project itself and act as an > official representative for the project (and FreeBSD). They > will also have > the authority to > delegate responsibility to people volunteering to work on the advocacy > project (but it does not > alleviate them of being overall responsible for what they > have delegated.. > So, if someone drops the ball..) > > New core team members can be added ONLY if there is an > unanimous vote from > all current core team members. > > This is just an idea.. But I think it's a good starting point > on how this > should be structured. In the end, > whatever is decided upon needs to have the blessing of the > FreeBSD core team > and an official charter should > be done laying down the guidelines for this project.. After > all, who wants > JSTR (Joe **it the ragman) to be > the PR guy for something that you have worked on.. It will > also help keep > any possible abuses from happening > and hopefully quell any arguments that arise. > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > > Okay, then, we'll just keep one "to do" list. It'd probably > > make things > > easier that way, anyway. > > > > > >I've stepped forth to lead the charge to address the lack > > of advocacy > > > >materials---something I've wanted to do for ~years~ now, > > which is why I > > > >feel I should be the one to lead it. I realize that it > > will be time > > > >consuming, and again, I cannot commit to deadlines. I > can promise, > > > >however, that it will be done. I can't let things sit > > idly by and rot > > > >away (unless of course it's my personal Web site). :-) > > > > > > This is my point exactly - you've wanted to do it for > > years, and never > > > done it - no big deal, but not a good start for a leader > > who doesn't > > > want any deadlines for goals. Deadlines don't mean anyone > > will end up > > > dead or fired, they just help keep people focused.. > > > > Good point. One for which I don't really have a defense, except the > > fact that I'm now in a position where I could actually get something > > done. > > > > At the risk of sounding like a Usenet troll, "Mee Tooo!!".. > > > > Oh well, not for me to decide, I'll just go back to -doc > > work and -www work. > > > > Sure it is. It's for all of us to decide. > > > > > > It doesn't matter to me what direction this moves. I just > > thought that > > I'd step forward and volunteer. If you would rather be our fearless > > leader, Eric, then again, you're more than welcome to do it. > > > This almost sounds like sarcasm.. I may be wrong, and > apologize if I am.. > > Please, let's make sure that we don't have this degenerate > into something > ugly.. This will only turn > everyone off to this idea. > > > <snip> > > -Stacy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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