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Date:      Sun, 12 May 2013 08:48:03 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: NFS Performance issue against NetApp
Message-ID:  <1966772823.291493.1368362883964.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca>
In-Reply-To: <518F4130.6080201@hub.org>

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 'k, here is on Linux ... this is right after rebooting the server,
> doing
> a mount and running the startup once:
>=20
> Client rpc stats:
> calls retrans authrefrsh
> 40602 0 40609
>=20
> Client nfs v3:
> null getattr setattr lookup access readlink
> 0 0% 13000 32% 5 0% 6140 15% 6741 16%
> 0 0%
> read write create mkdir symlink mknod
> 3556 8% 6711 16% 3743 9% 307 0% 0 0%
> 0 0%
> remove rmdir rename link readdir readdirplus
> 1 0% 0 0% 0 0% 0 0% 16 0%
> 380 0%
> fsstat fsinfo pathconf commit
> 0 0% 2 0% 1 0% 0 0%
>=20
> One thing to note is that both Linux/FreeBSD have
> "rsize=3D65536,wsize=3D65536" ... but there are 63x as many reads / 34x a=
s
> many writes on FreeBSD as on Linux ... ?
>=20
> Just noticed this on the FreeBSD stats:
>=20
> Rpc Info:
> TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests
> 0 0 0 0 818479
>=20
> 818k Retries? Is that normal ... ?
>=20
> Also, the NetApp volumes being used here are not shared ... there are
> no
> other clients mounting these, and the Linux/FreeBSD volumes are
> seperate
> ... same size, same jboss install, same configuration, same war file
> ...
> I could mount /vol/linux_jboss onto the FreeBSD, or /vol/freebsd_jboss
> onto the Linux, and they would load the same way ... in fact, the
> jboss
> install itself was done onto the FreeBSD and copied over to the Linux
> ... and both are using OpenJDK7 ... I tried to make it as identical as
> I
> could ...
>=20
>=20
> On 2013-05-11 7:27 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > With
> >
> > vfs.nfs.noconsist=3D3 ... 385595ms
> >
> > nfsstat -z before startup, nfsstat -c after:
> >
> > Client Info:
> > Rpc Counts:
> >   Getattr Setattr Lookup Readlink Read Write Create
> > Remove
> >    332594 5 17238 0 224426 231137
> > 3743 1
> >    Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir
> > RdirPlus Access
> >         0 0 0 307 0 71 0 8447
> >     Mknod Fsstat Fsinfo PathConf Commit
> >         0 509 0 0 0
> > Rpc Info:
> >  TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests
> >         0 0 0 0 818479
> > Cache Info:
> > Attr Hits Misses Lkup Hits Misses BioR Hits Misses BioW
> > Hits Misses
> >    608296 332596 526200 17245 -95425 224426 13178
> > 231137
> > BioRLHits Misses BioD Hits Misses DirE Hits Misses Accs
> > Hits Misses
> >         0 0 1050 55 502 7
> > 543340 8448
> >
Ok, so disabling the mtime based cache consistency doesn't make
much difference. Forget about that one.

I've attached another patch (which you probably shouldn't use for
a production system either) to be tried instead of the last one.
(This one is basically "work in progress" by Alexander Kabaev for
 better performance during file linking. I hope he doesn't mind
 me posting it.)

rick

> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >
> > vfs.nfs.noconsist=3D2 ... 392201ms
> >
> > Client Info:
> > Rpc Counts:
> >   Getattr Setattr Lookup Readlink Read Write Create
> > Remove
> >    332557 5 17228 0 224421 231131
> > 3743 1
> >    Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir
> > RdirPlus Access
> >         0 0 0 307 0 72 0 8430
> >     Mknod Fsstat Fsinfo PathConf Commit
> >         0 502 0 0 0
> > Rpc Info:
> >  TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests
> >         0 0 0 0 818395
> > Cache Info:
> > Attr Hits Misses Lkup Hits Misses BioR Hits Misses BioW
> > Hits Misses
> >    607834 332557 525801 17231 -95401 224421 13178
> > 231131
> > BioRLHits Misses BioD Hits Misses DirE Hits Misses Accs
> > Hits Misses
> >         0 0 1028 56 502 0
> > 542925 8431
> >
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > vfs.nfs.noconsist=3D0 ... 391622ms
> >
> >
> > Client Info:
> > Rpc Counts:
> >   Getattr Setattr Lookup Readlink Read Write Create
> > Remove
> >    236122 5 17221 0 230575 230823
> > 3743 1
> >    Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir
> > RdirPlus Access
> >         0 0 0 307 0 71 0 8425
> >     Mknod Fsstat Fsinfo PathConf Commit
> >         0 516 0 0 0
> > Rpc Info:
> >  TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests
> >         0 0 0 0 727799
> > Cache Info:
> > Attr Hits Misses Lkup Hits Misses BioR Hits Misses BioW
> > Hits Misses
> >    711860 236124 526549 17225 -101525 230490 13178
> > 230823
> > BioRLHits Misses BioD Hits Misses DirE Hits Misses Accs
> > Hits Misses
> >         0 0 1057 55 516 0
> > 543709 8425
> >
> >
> > I checked a second time with nonconsist=3D0, and the nfsstat -c values
> > seem to come out pretty much the same ...
> >
> > I'm going to head down to the office and try again with Solaris (I'd
> > have to re-install, since I used that system for the Solaris), and
> > see
> > what nfsstat -c results I get out of that ... will post a followup
> > on
> > this when completed ...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2013-05-10 5:32 PM, Rick Macklem wrote:
> >> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >>> FYI =E2=80=A6 I just installed Solaris 11 onto the same hardware and =
ran
> >>> the
> >>> same test =E2=80=A6 so far, I'm seeing:
> >>>
> >>> Linux @ ~30s
> >>> Solaris @ ~44s
> >>>
> >>> OpenBSD @ ~200s
> >>> FreeBSD @ ~240s
> >>>
> >>> I've even tried FreeBSD 8.3 just to see if maybe its as 'newish'
> >>> issue
> >>> =E2=80=A6 same as 9.x =E2=80=A6 I could see Linux 'cutting corners', =
but
> >>> Oracle/Solaris too =E2=80=A6 ?
> >>>
> >> The three client implementations (BSD, Linux, Solaris) were
> >> developed
> >> independently and, as such, will all implement somewaht different
> >> caching algorithms (the RFCs specify what goes on the wire, but say
> >> little w.r.t. client side caching).
> >>
> >> I have a attached a patch that might be useful for determining if
> >> the client side buffer cache consistency algorithm in FreeBSD is
> >> causing the slow startup of jboss. Do not run this patch on a
> >> production system, since it pretty well disables all buffer cache
> >> coherency (ie. if another client modifies a file, the patched
> >> client
> >> won't notice and will continue to cache stale file data).
> >>
> >> If the patch does speed up startup of jboss significantly, you can
> >> use the sysctl:
> >>   vfs.nfs.noconsist
> >> to check for which coherency check is involved by decreasing the
> >> value for the sysctl by 1 and then trying a startup again. (When
> >> vfs.nfs.noconsist=3D0, normal cache coherency will be applied.)
> >>
> >> I have no idea if buffer cache coherency is a factor, but trying
> >> the attached patch might determine if it is.
> >>
> >> Note that you have never posted updated "nfsstat -c" values.
> >> (Remember that what you posted indicated 88 RPCs, which seemed
> >>   bogus.) Finding out if FreeBSD does a lot more of certain RPCs
> >> that Linux/Solaris might help isolate what is going on.
> >>
> >> rick
> >>
> >>> On 2013-05-03, at 04:50 , Mark Felder <feld@feld.me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, 02 May 2013 18:43:17 -0500, Marc G. Fournier
> >>>> <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hadn't thought to do so with Linux, but =E2=80=A6
> >>>>> Linux =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. 20732ms, 20117ms, 20935ms, 20130ms, 20560=
ms
> >>>>> FreeBSD .. 28996ms, 24794ms, 24702ms, 23311ms, 24153ms
> >>>> Please make sure both platforms are using similar atime settings.
> >>>> I
> >>>> think most distros use ext4 with diratime by default. I'd just do
> >>>> noatime on both platforms to be safe.
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