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Date:      Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:28:30 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
To:        Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc:        David Burton <odyseus2000@earthlink.net>, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: asus recommendation
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009251206530.78246-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>
In-Reply-To: <E13dQMp-000Bm4-00@rip.psg.com>

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On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Randy Bush wrote:

> > why dont you surf on over to the www.asus.com website, poke around a
> > little while, see what looks like it would meet your needs.
> 
> did that.  and they use all sorts of terms which folk who have not kept up
> with mbs and chip sets don't understand, FSB, ServerWorks, AGPset, i820,
> RDRAM, ...  which it is not clear freebsd (4.1-stable) supports.
> 
> e.g. the p3c-ls (or -s) look close to my needs if i don't want anything
> faster than 733mhz, but does freebsd support the i820, the aic7892 (the
> handbook says 789x, but i am cautious), ...?

This should help you out with general narrowing-down of what you want:

1) Stay away from the RDRAM chipsets.  This includes the Intel i820
and i840.  RDRAM is not only very, very expensive memory, its actual
performance advantage is questionable, and it is being backed by a
very questionable company (as in the underhanded Microsoft-type
questionable -- Rambus, Inc.).  I don't envision RAMBUS DRAM lasting
very long in the server/workstation/desktop market due to its many
disadvantages, but instead in the embedded market where it actually
has some good advantages over SDRAM.

2) If you want to use a PIII processor, this leaves you with several
choices:  The good old i440BX chipset, the i810, the i815, and the
ServerWorks stuff.  I don't recommend the i810, as it is pretty
low-end.  The i440BX is over a couple of years old, but it is a very
mature chipset that has proven itself as reliable.  All of the other
chipsets available for Slot1/Socket370 processors (such as from VIA,
SiS, ALI, etc.) are crap, IMHO.  Since the i815 is also pretty low-end
and not suitable for servers, I'd have to go with one of the
ServerWorks solutions (ASUS, Tyan, and SuperMicro, among others, make
boards with these chipsets).

3) If you want to use an AMD Athlon processor of some type, you should
wait a bit.  The motherboards based on AMD's new 760 chipset are just
now in the beta phase (the chipset is done, now its up to the mobo
manufacturers to do something with it).  The only other options are
the AMD 750 chipset which is now quite dated and would hinder the
performance of any modern Athlon you stick on it, and then there are
the VIA chipsets.  Most of the boards based on the VIA stuff are not
very reliable.  A few manufacturers have managed to create reliable
boards out of them, but you'll have to do extra research to find out
which boards they are.



-- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net
   FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet.
   For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org )




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