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Date:      Wed, 30 May 2001 14:20:40 -0400
From:      Michael Adler <Michael.Adler@compaq.com>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Preliminary Tuning man page (was Re: Benchmarking FreeBSD (was ...))
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20010530141138.0281f858@vssad.hlo.dec.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010530191342.G74837@ringworld.oblivion.bg>
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Now I do.  I've not needed to mount anything manually since everything is 
in /etc/fstab.  The output from the mount command during boot goes to the 
console but, by default, none of the log files.  Consequently, soft-updates 
state is never displayed on a standard configuration except for the 
messages flying by on the console without some work on the part of the 
operator.

Actually, it had never occurred to me that soft-updates was a property of a 
file-system and not a global flag in the kernel.  That is why I suggested a 
more prominent note about soft-updates.  In my case (and perhaps others), 
write caching was turned off starting in 4.3 with soft-updates still off.

-Michael

At 12:13 PM 5/30/2001, Peter Pentchev wrote:
>On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:50:32AM -0400, Michael Adler wrote:
> > Thank you for the tuning page!  I and, I fear, others made the mistake 
> of
> > assuming that because SOFTUPDATES is in the kernel that it is 
> automatically
> > enabled for the disks.  Nothing printed during boot leads me to believe 
>
> > otherwise and no mention was made of checking the flag using tunefs in
> > /usr/src/UPDATING.  My drives formatted with standard methods in the 
> past
> > had soft updates disabled.
> >
> > Perhaps there should be a message somewhere prominent encouraging 
> people to
> > check whether their drives really have soft updates enabled.  It would 
> also
> > be useful if something during boot showed whether a mount would be 
> using
> > soft updates.
>
>You do realize, don't you, that just issuing a 'mount' command would
>show 'soft-updates' for the filesystems that have soft updates enabled?


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