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Date:      Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:58:46 -0500 (EST)
From:      <joeo@cracktown.com>
To:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: NVIDIA  3D FreeBSD Drivers
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.30.0203040446480.30014-100000@asmodean-ssn.nks.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020303154106.0165637B402@hub.freebsd.org>

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Possibly a little off topic, for 3D on freebsd today you can use the
Voodoo3/4/5 (if you can find them), ATI AGP Rage128's, Matrox AGP
G400/G450's, and the current speed king is the ATI's AGP radeon line
(minus the 8x00 series).  All of these companies funded Precision Insight
(later part of VA Linux) to build 3d drivers for XFree86 for their cards.
PI did thework under conditions that the sourcecode for this work be
releasable under the XFree86 license.

The mentioned cards work with FreeBSD 4.3+ and current and the sources to
the kernel modules are available with the XFree86-4.2.0 source release.
The module sources are also installable via ports/graphics/drm-kmod.

The setup works well enough that 3D linux games work under emulation
(sound results may vary).

Check the freebsd-multimedia list archives.

On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Justin L. Boss wrote:

> You are all missing the point. This is for 3d hardware support first of all.
> I'm using a G-Force2 now and it work just fine for me too, with out 3d
> support. It is also about letting people know how many people use FreeBSD,
> its about letting hareware and software vendors know that they need to be
> writing drivers, application and games for FreeBSD because so many people use
> it. I don't like linux and I do not like comparing FreeBSD and linux because
> FreeBSD towering over linux in every way. But one thing I will say is that
> linux users are willing to fight for linux . That may be one of the resons
> why linux is more popular then FreeBSD. It sure isn't because linux is
> better. Someone will say "theirs no games for FreeBSD that use 3d
> acceleration yet" and I say "their won't be until it can support it". You
> can't put the horse before the buggy. No one can say for sure that FreeBSD
> will be around forever.  I sure the FreeBSD team would say if it wasn't for
> our contbution when we get the four set cd-rom for $29-$39. If we didn't
> donate our money they would have to close down. I can't be sure but it takes
> money to make the world go round ask Enron. And the more vendors that support
> FreeBSD, the more people will use FreeBSD, the more money will come in and
> the faster freeBSD will grow and the more we will benefit. I just woke up so
> if this is screw up sorry but you get the just.
>
> On Sunday 03 March 2002 03:19 am, Benjamin Krueger wrote:
> > * Brian T . Schellenberger (bts@babbleon.org) [020303 00:26]:
> > > On Saturday 02 March 2002 10:09 am, Justin L. Boss wrote:
> > > > I know not everone uses FreeBSD for a desktop but if you like FreeBSD
> > > > and are interested in seeing it become one of the most successfully OS
> > > > ever and you think you will ever use it as a desktop and like to have
> > > > 3d support then take a minute and go to
> > > > http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/petition.html and fill out the petition.
> > > > It is your OS, fight for it.
> > >
> > > Why not just avoid nvidia entirely?  Or fight for public release of the
> > > specs instead of trying to get FreeBSD added to the list of "blessed"
> > > OS's like Linux and Windows.
> > >
> > > Avoid proprietary solutions and venders of hardware that are unwilling to
> > > work  with open-source code.
> >
> > Unwilling, or unable? As I've heard, they will not release specs because
> > they cannot release specs as per licensing contracts for their technology.
> > This hardly seems like a damnable offense to me, especially considering it
> > helps them build excellent hardware.
> >
> > As for the matter of not having support for NVidia cards under FreeBSD...
> >
> > [snip]
> > Section "Module"
> >         Load  "extmod"
> > 				Load  "xie"
> > 				Load  "pex5"
> > 				Load  "glx"
> > 				Load  "dri"
> > 				Load  "dbe"
> > 				Load  "record"
> > 				Load  "freetype"
> > EndSection
> > [snip]
> > Section "Device"
> >         Identifier  "Card0"
> >         Driver      "nv"
> >         VendorName  "NVidia"
> >         BoardName   "GeForce2 MX"
> >         BusID       "PCI:1:5:0"
> > EndSection
> > [snip]
> >
> > My NVidia card works fine under FreeBSD for me.
>
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