Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:06:10 +0100 From: David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> To: Julian Elischer <julian@FreeBSD.org> Cc: toolchain@FreeBSD.org, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>, current@FreeBSD.org, "re@FreeBSD.org Engineering Team" <re@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: patch to add AES intrinsics to gcc Message-ID: <D879DDDA-EF9D-470A-A82E-04E83DB2A7E4@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <52173C8D.20608@freebsd.org> References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <105E26EE-8471-49D3-AB57-FBE2779CF8D0@FreeBSD.org> <CAE-m3X324rbdP_C=az4eO-EkMcR-yFAeRG7S4q%2BMUsnMezGddw@mail.gmail.com> <5CE4B5FA-9DA0-45E4-8D67-161E0829FE6B@FreeBSD.org> <52173C8D.20608@freebsd.org>
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--Apple-Mail=_25C04FD8-9B62-4151-9440-9259D8707223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 23 Aug 2013, at 11:42, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote: > no, I believe we have said that 10 would ship with clang by default. = NO mention was made about gcc being absent, and I am uncomfortable with = taking that step yet. Having gcc just present, will not hurt you.. even = after it is gone we will need to support those who will be replacing = clang with newer versions of gcc in hteir own products. The plan is not to delete gcc from the tree, it is to disable building = gcc by default when clang is the system compiler. If you are building = products then you are perfectly at liberty to set WITH_GCC=3Dyes in your = src.conf. Our gcc is from 2007. It has no C11, no C++11 support. It has bugs in = its atomic generation so you can't use it sensibly without lots of = inline assembly (which it doesn't support for newer architectures) for = multithreaded things. Our libstdc++ is ancient and doesn't work with modern C++ codebases. = Putting them in the base system means that people will use them. If = anyone wants them to remain, then speak now and this will be taken as = your volunteering to: - Maintain our forks of both gcc and libstdc++ - Handle every single PR that is filed by people using these If you are willing to do this, then that's great. If not, then you are = asking other people to support ancient codebases that they are not = using. David --Apple-Mail=_25C04FD8-9B62-4151-9440-9259D8707223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSF0IiAAoJEKx65DEEsqId+k4P/RFwL2MtORKKi4copj9dKJ3r f/Uh7vfFAqFmk3w/itKSCVictHJngqSXhopXpo7PIRob7hh+pVkF1fUd7a69bJH5 XaTslr3zJeQGZBsZGdYGKHeDaX33Y2r7VSaqUrk8EJfJwNffzQbBWkUA0YIYC/Xh cmYh/3CIDclemBPgRH1GQR78n9yuf3yZK/r22HMr2aPS/YWGfn0MQiEbEL0OgsMP 7uOYmXpmXiTcrJQEaBb4chS0PT4vPC4PJKbaRDCyhzSy1CuIWJjjDPyWco4WB/RY ssBQo/g/AFlANYdkuLk+9T860oS93/eotnbPifux5zvjKCFpk3JZwclBJI35sclk syqLfZHwskvmWa8cA6IuGQNBgpbBmOfVK65HwTPQ9+B14aQ83euKI2PQywtFW/dp maMYs65dRfhDdazzytTzPqemRc9CZfqt0sV9qfpqAReDTiKTV2hfcY/UCkoy9+7F 2gICFQAWFPuod47TUyWb8v94zfCmgnZvhdtZkomZ3wxntYTt5A6cioDO8yIbhqrh wF65WCvffKMQa/J4JdvsaFAm07F0KLxJ/fdEaskqoh5UnfU3sFRiK2oAHloSBblt uK+b/847HM1NEH/f5pBiiIj2cT+ANl2cWR15n5YJEwUg02b/c+30iq5DFv5X3yYx Xh33KOvh35quLXx//8yg =ZDGR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_25C04FD8-9B62-4151-9440-9259D8707223--
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