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Date:      Sat, 04 Apr 2015 02:23:12 +0300
From:      Artem Kuchin <artem@artem.ru>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Little research how rm -rf and tar kill server
Message-ID:  <551F20E0.9040103@artem.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20150403231530.GH2379@kib.kiev.ua>
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04.04.2015 2:15, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 12:59:38AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
>> 03.04.2015 0:02, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
>>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:13:51AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
>>>> 31.03.2015 19:42, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
>>>>> Syncer and sync(2) perform different kind of syncs. Take the snapshot of
>>>>> sysctl debug.softdep before and after the situation occur to have some
>>>>> hints what is going on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Okay. Here is the sysctl  data
>>> Try this.  It may be not enough, I will provide some update in this case.
>>> No need to resend the sysctl data.  Just test whether explicit sync(2) is
>>> needed in your situation after the patch.
>>>
>>>
>> Okay, patches, recompiled and installed new kernel.
>>
>> The behaviour changed a bit.
>>
>> Now when i start untar mysql quickly rises to 40 queries in the queue in
>> opening table state.
>> (before the rise was slower)
>> BUT after a while (20-30 seconds) all queries are executed.
>> This cycle repeated 4 times and then situation aggravated quickly. It
>> happened when untar
>> reached big subtree with tons of small files.
>> Queue grew to 70 queries, processes went to 600 (from 450).
>> I stopped untar. Waited 3 minutes. Everything was becoming even worse
>> (700 process, over 100
>> queries). Issued sync. It executed for 3 seconds and voila! 20 idle
>> connections, 450 processes.
>> So, manual sync is still need.
>>
>> Also it seems like during untar shell was less responsive than before.
>>
>> Also, when the system managed to flush query queue systat -io shows over
>> 1000 tps, but when
>> they got stuck it showed only about 200 tps.
> So there were the i/o ops during the stall period ?  I.e., a situation
> where there is clogged queue and hung processes, but no disk activity,
> does not occur, even temporary ?
not, such does not happen. untar is always untarring and file bases 
sites continue
to works, just slower, but mysql queries build up, but some are executed
>
> In what state the hung processes are blocked ?  Look at the wchan name
> either in top or ps output.  Are there processes in "suspfs" state ?

no,  after the patch all in normal state, only mysql in UFS state and 
some perl and http
(mayb 3 or 5) in ufs state too
>
> Try the following patch.

trying now.




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