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Date:      Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:45:27 -0600
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        "Barkell, Bill" <Bill.Barkell@compuware.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: best firewall option for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3C7CE2F7.B188503D@centtech.com>
References:  <A58643BEDEF7D211BABB0008C75D853F0A5F66ED@fhpri01.compuware.com>

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Speaking of this, what is the appropriate way to add a DMZ? I have a setup kind
of like this (3 nics - 1 to the net, 1 to the "internal" net, and 1 not used). 
I would like to use the 3rd NIC to be a DMZ, but I would like to let nearly
everything thru - like stuff for games, internet phone stuff, etc.  How can I
implement this and still keep the security of the box uncomprimised?  ANyone
know of a good FAQ or HOWTO on this?  I use ipfilter, and ipnat, so I just
started looking at the map and redir functions to ipnat.

Eric



"Barkell, Bill" wrote:
> 
> How about spending a few more $ and add a third NIC? This will give you the
> ability to add a DMZ for that pesky mail server at a later date.
> 
> Bill Barkell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m p [mailto:sumirati@yahoo.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:29 AM
> To: sec@hict.nl
> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: best firewall option for FreeBSD
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have to build a firewall for our University with 2 NIC's. One
> > connected to internet and the second connected to the network.
> > The e-mail is running on M$ Exchange, but this servers are placed
> > outside of the network.
> > With the firewall we would like to increase the security, but also make
> > it impossible for internal users to use anything else but http, https,
> > ssh, ftp-client,pop3-client, Outlook. So it has to be impossible to use
> > Morpheus, Kazaa, Napster etc.
> >
> > What firewall software (Opensource) would you advice? Or do I have to
> > choose another OS?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Geert Houben
> 
> Hi Geert,
> 
> you can use either ipfw (the firewall I prefer) or ipfilter.
> 
> For your case I would you ipfilter. Why?
> 
> To filter all but ssh, http, https, smtp and pop3 (aka mail (what you meant
> with outlook)) you can choose both. But ftp is a braindead (from a
> firewaller
> sight) protocol. You can not simple make a rule "allow tcp from internal
> network to external ftp-server" - because it will use more than one port.
> 
> So you should use ipfilter which "inspects" the pakets flowing through to
> get
> the new ftp port which have to be open - or use a ftp-proxy (there are some
> in
> the ports, look for one fitting your purpose).
> 
> Another thought:
> 
> Should this firewall be "visible" to the user? Should he/she know about it?
> If
> not you can only add a transparent proxy and/or building a bridging rather
> than
> a routing firewall.
> If yes, well, why not considering a new infrastructure for your servers in
> the
> net and your users too?
> An Exchange server in the internet without firewall (and securing Windows
> behorehand - but of course you have done that, haven't you?) is not nearly
> secure - for example.
> You can work on that detail and a lot more with a new concept which have to
> include security concerns, usefulness, managebility (if there is this word),
> TOC ....
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Marc
> 
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