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Date:      Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:11:22 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
Cc:        David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S
Message-ID:  <20041018201122.GB34236@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <41741F6E.90600@freebsd.org>
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 01:54:22PM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> This has been discussed for years.  It should not be a surpise.  Frankly
> I'm thrilled that David at least made it conditional rather than just
> culling the support entirely as has been threatened so often in the
> past.
>
_What_ has been discussed for years?

It's been for years that GENERIC kernel doesn't support i386.

It's been for years that in 6.0-RELEASE the I386_CPU should
go away.

It wasn't for years that default world won't run on i386.
If this is going to happen (you speak for re@?), then let's
declare it to the world first -- this is all I ask about.

If i386 support should go away completely, I'm fine with
this too, but let's declare it before doing it.
=20
> i386 hasn't been supported in the default configuration for years.=20
>=20
This was true only about the kernel.

> Whether or not someone got it running with 5.2.1 doesn't change this.
>=20
How's that?  i386 release notes say that running on i386 is still
supported, just requires recompiling a kernel.  This is no longer
the case after this commit.

> The knobs are there to (theoretically) turn it on.  So as long as those
> knobs are consistent and documented, nothing is lost.
>=20
They are not, and my complaint was solely about it.  I ended
up sending a patch to David for libc/Makefile per his request.

> Guys, just decide on the name of the knob and be done with it.  Please!
> This was settled years ago.  The 80386 isn't making an unexpected
> comeback here that warrants a lot of fighting.
>=20
This is not a fighting at all.  Rather, this is just a normal
polishing of an incomplete commit.


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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