Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:12:15 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> Cc: "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp>, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? Message-ID: <20150917171215.7e8541bf.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <CAASDrV=D6viCDJx9yT5CiNf1ukiz_Rp1k5wqpk92xSyiNQTEqg@mail.gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuYq6JqzX=aHNgD=y5SUnBQ4x_Amk-6B0bvKc6kRQ5YVA@mail.gmail.com> <CAASDrVnxZ8MUmgCO-cFRVatUMQS1LHU-4XASSJckzp_FJbvd2w@mail.gmail.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <CAASDrVnuVfOsJvNuOsAQaHYRQqFenH%2B3=wNDBO5GR5j2KgxsxQ@mail.gmail.com> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> <CAASDrVnNuh%2BjT-%2BZFTriPELfOB78accBqGmrVUE-MDgDPZoicA@mail.gmail.com> <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659>
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--Sig_/e_ES5xRlgu32YBufb6H++Es Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:48:09 +0200 Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> schrieb: > El d=C3=ADa Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, Lundberg= , Johannes escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > > Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel if > > FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) > > ... >=20 > What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720 > Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not note it. > I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can live fine > with Vesa until Haswell suport is there. >=20 > matthias At what resolution? I have some Lenovo Thinkpad E540, L540. Display resolut= ion: 1980x1080 dots. CPU: Intel i5-4200M, Haswell with HD4600 iGPU. The laptops = do not work with VESA driver - despite some claims of others, I never managed it to get= the driver working on exactly those system types! The alternative framebuffer device is simply horror! I was used to use VESA driver a while ago when FreeBSD fell back in AMD's f= ocus of support with some AMD HD47XX and HD48XX frambuffers. Compared to the cheape= st nVidia GPU board we plugged in then and the nVidia BLOB, VESA was incredibly slow, clu= msy and not very stable. That hasn't changed for now. GPUs got faster, so VESA might no= t suffer from non 2D/3D acceleration, but I never managed it to bring VESA to live for re= solutions like 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 and even higher. That is - for a desktop/workst= ation system - in my opinion "a must". For a notebook/laptop its 1980x1080. Everything e= lse is a toy and for that one can also use crap Windooze OS. Having now Ubuntu and Intel driver for the laptops, there is no need for sl= ow workarounds like VESA. =20 --Sig_/e_ES5xRlgu32YBufb6H++Es Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJV+thPAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8RsYH/jphjGigjkx79FmZVAnJZcmU 5hTtI6e1LfREsaAI5QBR7FM0XfYeOMyGfIdHuoj7krRwQ6+gYrHVDfAKu80h7Jvy MSmvFQsS9PpvMcGGPI4z8z2vZjRWJfyw8W3OkP7NwczP9K770ELK+uam53nWh7l7 XT20OhpaB21XJd6DiSbcpUmMcFJ1srbNDLohxMJHksrbr/qVrYL5H2IeuQT/L26I kJlPPCKILmGOGDNIAwVmWdq1KMtjLsc7j5VUXcRPcXOk6Md4M+3NIZd37aS+LvM7 QT8TiAU5xlVlSXI06/+V7Y4YifoafOKqA20q8W2xfDaXFGMM+iw8ni6dww4PY34= =JIe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/e_ES5xRlgu32YBufb6H++Es--
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