Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:30:45 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: mark@linus.demon.co.uk (Mark Valentine) Cc: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, nate@sri.MT.net Subject: Re: Building inside of /usr/src? Message-ID: <15796.835756245@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:25:22 -0000." <199606260125.BAA08095@linus.demon.co.uk>
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> Nate's words reflect my understanding of the 4.4BSD build system precisely. Look, this is getting silly. Here's my final opinion on the matter and I'll simply whack "delete" on anything else in this vein since it's really starting to take me away from things I should be doing instead, like work on 2.1.5 bogons: 1. I will fix outright bugs in my current implementation if they break some part of the *FreeBSD* build system. Sorry, I can't worry about every hypothetical TomBSD, DickBSD and HarryBSD - if they don't like FreeBSD's changes then they hardly have to take them, either - they're hardly being shoved down the *BSD world's throat here! 2. If someone else can give me the following features: 2a) Build from a totally read-only source tree with nothing more advanced than, say, `cd /cdrom/usr/src && make world'. This is not me being stubborn, this is me wanting to make symlinks to the CDROM sources on the behalf of the user, if they so choose, and not have to document the build procedure as being special in any way. No matter how they're getting to their source, it should be the *exact same* procedure and no magic environment variables to set. 2b) Don't have make world build/teardown symlinks as part of the build. Not only does this conflict with #1, but it will nuke any other build using the same tree simultaneously. 2c) Make it easy to destroy *all* artifacts of a build with a simple `rm -rf someobjdir' - I don't want to have to chase around through multiple parts of the system just to delete the old objects. Then I'll be perfectly happy to see the approach I took die and the new one, whatever that might be, take its place. None of these examples are contrived and they're ALL walls I have run into at one point or another (or kept me from making the sources easier to use for the novice with little disk space). If you or Bruce or Nate would care to do 2a - 2c then I'll happily bow out of the build-tree modification business, content that a bogon I've been complaining about for years was finally fixed and I didn't have to play lightning rod, either. Jordan
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