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Date:      Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:58:18 -0400
From:      PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca>
To:        Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>
Cc:        Johan Hendriks <Johan@double-l.nl>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: glabel clarification
Message-ID:  <4ADC8C9A.4030903@videotron.ca>
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Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca
> <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Adam Vande More wrote:
>     > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca
>     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>
>     > <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca
>     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Adam Vande More wrote:
>     >     > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ
>     <af.gourmet@videotron.ca <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>
>     >     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca
>     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>>
>     >     > <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca
>     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>
>     >     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca
>     <mailto:af.gourmet@videotron.ca>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that
>     glabel would
>     >     >     work; I am
>     >     >     trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I
>     >     can update
>     >     >     with changes on the master machine from time to time and
>     >     thus prevent
>     >     >     data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main
>     >     system; if it
>     >     >     were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is
>     identical.
>     >     But the
>     >     >     /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot
>     from
>     >     ad6, I
>     >     >     will
>     >     >     get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It
>     looks like we
>     >     >     need an
>     >     >     unique identifier for each disk.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > Why not use gmirror?
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > --
>     >     > Adam Vande More
>     >     because I am not using RAID. :-(
>     >
>     >
>     > gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system
>     >
>     > --
>     > Adam Vande More
>     You ae trying to give me a migraine. :-)
>     But what happens if the disks are not identical in size? Dump/restore
>     allows for that; dump/restore will copy only the used date and not the
>     entire partition or slice.
>
>
> It depends on what your end goals is which is still not entirely
> clear.  Do you want a disk that can be unplugged from a machine and
> used to boot immediately in your orginal system in case of hd
> failure.  If yes then gmirror + ggated is the way to go.  If you
> simply want data to be backed up on regular basis, something like
> rsync is easier.
>
>
> -- 
> Adam Vande More
Actually, I have been trying to clone a disk and then install the disk
in another machine or same clone in several machines. That's why I
thought that once the clone is make it would boot on any machine. This
in presuming that each clone is identical including the fstab file; I
understood that this would allow immediate bootup regardless of what the
disk may be ad4, ad1, ad12 or whatever. This would permit changing the
necessary configurations of samba, network, etc. Now I see that it
doesn't work that way. I can still clone the disk but then just have to
find what disk is the clone.



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