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Date:      Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:28:55 -0800
From:      Tim Kientzle <kientzle@acm.org>
To:        Tillman Hodgson <tillman@seekingfire.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: backing up ACLs
Message-ID:  <3FF08E87.2040003@acm.org>
In-Reply-To: <20031229185327.GB22084@seekingfire.com>
References:  <3FE93499.7060307@freebsd.org> <000a01c3c9f3$004c9280$b901320a@komi.mts.ru> <3FF07379.70101@acm.org> <20031229185327.GB22084@seekingfire.com>

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Tillman Hodgson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:33:29AM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> 
>>It's a tar implementation that handles ACLs,
>>file flags, sparse files, etc, etc, and might
>>be a workable substitute for dump/restore.
> 
> With respect, tar variants are not a direct replacement for dump
> variants. I suspect that when you said "workable substitute" it should
> be read as "substitute requiring a fair amount of work" ;-)

I should have said "might allow you to backup systems
using ACLs *today* while you wait for dump/restore
to be updated."  Clearly, dump/restore do need to be
updated, and I did not intend to claim that
any tar implementation was a direct substitute for
any dump implementation.

That said, however, if you're used to crufty old BSD tar
or crufty new GNU tar, you might be surprised at what a
good modern tar implementation can do.

Tim



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