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Date:      Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:08:45 -0400
From:      Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@nitro.dk>
Cc:        jim@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter.
Message-ID:  <20030619180845.157676ec.trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030619215357.GE408@nitro.dk>
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:53:57 +0200
"Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@nitro.dk> wrote:

> On 2003.06.19 17:30:38 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200
> > "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@nitro.dk> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > > 
> > > [CUT]
> > > > +    <para>These values are used with the <command>chmod</command> command
> > > > +      just like before, but with letters.  For an example, you could use
> > > > +      the following command to block other users from accessing the files
> > > > +      in your home directory:</para>
> > > > +
> > > > +    <screen>&prompt.user;<userinput>chmod go= *</userinput></screen>
> > > 
> > > I think this is a bad example since it really doesn't prevent others
> > > from reading e.g. dotfiles and the directory content. This section is
> > > targeting newbies I think it's better not to let them think they can
> > > "secure" a directory this way.  I think a simple example with some
> > > random file would be fine - like the next example.
> > 
> > Have a better one I could use?
> 
> Just something simple like :
> 
> <para>These values are used with the <command>chmod</command> command
>   just like before, but with letters.  For an example, you could use
>   the following command to block other users from accessing <replaceable>FILE</replaceable>:
> 
> <screen>&prompt.user;<userinput>chmod go= <replaceable>FILE</replaceable></userinput></screen>
> 
> Or something along those lines.

I usually end with </para> even if I wish to show an example.  Last
time I didn't there was a huge gap between the text and example.

Done.  Thanks!

> 
> > > > +    <para>A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set
> > > > +      of changes to a file must be made.  For example the following command
> > > > +      will remove the groups and <quote>world</quote> write permission
> > > 
> > > When referencing world here (which I think is OK) I think "(World)" or
> > > something like that should be added group option in the table.
> > 
> > At the time of writing, I couldn't think of a way to phrase it.  Help
> > on this would be great!
> 
> I think it would be fine if you changed the "All" description in the
> table to something like :
> 
>   <row>
>     <entry>(who)</entry>
>     <entry>a</entry>
>     <entry>All (<quote>World</quote>)</entry>
>   </row>
> 

Gotcha.  This is done.  I don't see the use in the patch you
sent.  The one with spaces after the &prompt.user;, as on the
screen there is no space.  However, I changed the last example
to &prompt.user; in place of &prompt.root; for consistency.

Thank you!

--
Tom Rhodes



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