Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 22:20:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Putting gbde to use: changes to fstab(5)? Message-ID: <20030506220503.W5620@znfgre.qbhto.arg> In-Reply-To: <58760.1052253053@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <58760.1052253053@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Tue, 6 May 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <007901c3140b$8ccbad20$6601a8c0@VAIO650>, "Lucky Green" writes:
>
> >I believe there is a need for a convention specifying where and how
> >gbde(4)(8) encrypted devices should be listed in system configuration
> >files. I don't hugely care what convention will be chosen is as long as
> >there exists a clear convention that will enable authors to write
> >software that will make it easy to deploy gbde.
>
> I fully agree this far.
As do I, even if lucky's penchant for writing really long "position
papers" that do nothing other than state really obvious conclusions is
starting to get annoying. :)
> The point where I start to get uneasy is where people think this will
> only be about GBDE.
We've started discussing ways to implement gbde initialization within rc
(which is obviously my preferred solution), and a user has submitted one
implementation of this. I'm hoping to polish and test that asap, it's high
on my list now that I've cleared a bunch of other small WIP's that I
wanted to get done before the freeze.
I'm sensitive to the issue Poul-Henning raised about making a solution
that will encompass more than gbde, which is why I didn't just jump in on
the committing the gbde script that was sent in. Of course, if someone
else comes up with another solution, I'm all ears.
> I am not saying that you should not go ahead, in fact, if you have
> time you should, but I really would prefer if we can avoid seeing
> an explosion of config files along the lines of:
> /etc/gbde.cf
> /etc/gmirror.cf
> /etc/graid5.cf
> /etc/gxxx.cf
> ...
Yeah, that'd be bad. If anything, /etc/geom.d/*.cf would be better, but it
would be nice if we could find a more general solution. Poul-Henning, have
you taken a look at the new devfs.conf file that I just committed? Would
something like that be scalable with what you have in mind?
> I'm sorry I cannot take an active lead in this, but my TODO list
> has recently eaten my pencil and the judge rule that it was a clear
> and justified act of self-defence.
No problem... not only is your time most valuable actually programming the
stuff, but my experience is that people who write really good low level
software aren't always the best people to translate that into user
experience. :)
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