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Date:      Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:32:32 +0200
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates?
Message-ID:  <20150917173232.1c9f42d9.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:24:40 -0400
Kris Moore <kris@pcbsd.org> schrieb:

> On 09/17/2015 11:19, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:02:07 -0400
> > Kris Moore <kris@pcbsd.org> schrieb:
> >
> >> On 09/17/2015 09:48, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> >>> El d=C3=ADa Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, Lund=
berg, Johannes
> >>> escribi=C3=B3:
> >>>
> >>>> Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel=
 if
> >>>> FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...)
> >>>> ...
> >>> What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720
> >>> Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not note =
it.
> >>> I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can live f=
ine
> >>> with Vesa until Haswell suport is there.
> >>>
> >>> 	matthias
> >> BTW, have you tried the xf86-video-scfb driver? It works much better
> >> than vesa here. The only catch is you have to be booted UEFI with CSM
> >> disabled. Using it on my X1 Carbon, gets 3k resolution properly and
> >> everything. Thanks to Glen Barber for bringing that to my attention.
> >>
> > Running that specific driver on several Lenovo HD4600 driven models giv=
es me headaches
> > and more. This software-framebuffer works - yes, on whatever resolution=
 you might
> > wish, but it consumes CPU time. That said, I recall that the display wa=
s jumpy, slow
> > and unresponsive when used under heavy load - not even 3k resolution, b=
ut with a
> > moderate lowend of 1980x1080.
>=20
> Interesting, that's been the opposite of my experience here. Vesa was
> much slower / using more CPU time and didn't give me the native
> resolution. Switching to scfb made the laptop "usable" for me, at least
> until we get a proper Intel driver that does Broadwell.
>=20

... as I said - VESA is unwilling to cooperate at higher resolutions, so I =
do not have
any comparison parameters fro the specific single hardware. VESA was slow i=
n the past -
compared to the nVidia BLOB or the X11 AMD HD 48XX drivers.

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