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Date:      Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:29:27 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Securing a system that's been rooted remotely (Was: BPF on in 3.3-RC GENERIC kernel)
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.19990917162715.047cbb10@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <19990917171656.H4975@futuresouth.com>
References:  <4.2.0.58.19990917155850.047bd680@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990916232349.047c27a0@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990916185341.00aaf100@localhost> <Pine.SOL.3.96L.990916210821.19993A-100000@unix8.andrew.cmu <4.2.0.58.19990916232349.047c27a0@localhost> <19990917134343.P16305@futuresouth.com> <4.2.0.58.19990917155850.047bd680@localhost>

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The problem is similar to that of having a standard "administrator" password
that has to be changed during installation of a hardware/software
product. A certain percentage of people -- no matter how smart --
will neglect to change it. 

Just as a general rule of thumb and guiding principle, things that make 
the system more insecure should be off by default.

--Brett

At 05:16 PM 9/17/99 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:

>You missed my main thrust.
>Why would you go to all the trouble to enable securelevels (usefully.
>read; flagging everyone and their mother), and still be running GENERIC?
>If you're not running GENERIC, you're running a custom kernel.  If you're
>running a custom kernel, you're customizing stuff anyway, so you can take
>out/put in bpf or whatever you want.  Where's the problem?




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