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Date:      Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:43:42 -0800
From:      pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= <ltning@anduin.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>, Joseph Koshy <joseph.koshy@gmail.com>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Reduced java/tomcat performance 6-beta3 -> 6-stable ?
Message-ID:  <57d710000511290843s3dc816a9r4bd5a92836aed340@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <460BE48B-594F-4450-AFA7-1652B7C6800A@anduin.net>
References:  <84dead720511280545v2bc0bc35jd107da06b9a788cb@mail.gmail.com> <02757598-222D-408E-8B33-C2EE1E6E426E@anduin.net> <20051128211440.GB28963@xor.obsecurity.org> <3A601A32-94D1-49F6-AB06-ED54D50D4B6A@anduin.net> <20051128235911.GA31669@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051129094531.Y23958@anduin.net> <20051129091533.GA41885@xor.obsecurity.org> <C8244498-F58F-4CCD-9BA5-7B9E19EAD517@anduin.net> <20051129103719.GB43032@xor.obsecurity.org> <460BE48B-594F-4450-AFA7-1652B7C6800A@anduin.net>

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On 11/29/05, Eirik =D8verby <ltning@anduin.net> wrote:
>
> On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:37 , Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:25:07AM +0100, Eirik ?verby wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:15 , Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:46:09AM +0100, Eirik Oeverby wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:53:00PM +0100, Eirik ?verby wrote:
> >>>>>> Firmware versions are equal. BIOS settings are equal.
> >>>>>> However, a diff of the dmesgs show (apart from MAC address
> >>>>>> differences):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 30c30
> >>>>>> < Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What on earth is that all about? The "slow" box has the ACPI-fast
> >>>>>> timecounter...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could be ACPI bugs on your system:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, but the other system is 100% equal - hardware, bios config,
> >>>> bios and
> >>>> bootblock revision, controller bioses, etc. etc.
> >>>> It all matches.
> >>>
> >>> Clearly they're not 100% equal, but (100-epsilon)%.  Your job is to
> >>> identify the origin of the epsilon :-)
> >>
> >> Yea yea ;) Working on it..
> >> Is there a way to force ACPI-safe on the slower system?
> >
> > I think someone already mentioned this..see the
> > kern.timecounter.hardware and other kern.timecounter sysctls.
>
> I have now forced ACPI-safe on the slow system, to match the fast one.
> Too bad though, it made absolutely zero difference.
>
> I'm upgrading BIOSes on both boxes now, even though they seem equal.
> Then I'll see what ACPI debug output shows me. If you have any other
> hints or ideas, please let me know...  thanks so far.
>
> /Eirik

Have you tired turning off ACPI at boot time.  Is there an option to
turn it off in the BIOS.  This is an HP box correct?  I have had some
fun in the past chasing down hard to reproduce ACPI problems on HP
hardware before, after much software trouble shooting I realized that
by turning some knob's in the BIOS got the machines to a stable state
(in my case I turned off USB "auto detection").

HTH
-pete


>
> >
> > Kris
>
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