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Date:      Sat, 7 Mar 2015 01:47:06 -0500
From:      Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>
To:        "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change
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Also, I don't believe that "bugs in new features" has the same meaning
as "development".

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a quote from the NGINX project:
>
> Which version should I use?
>
> In general, you should deploy the NGINX mainline branch at all times.
> You may wish to use stable if you are concerned about possible impacts
> of new features, such as incompatibility with third-party modules or
> the introduction of bugs in new features.
>
>
> From this and checking the source code repository here:
> hg.nginx.org/nginx the development branch is "default". Perhaps the
> -devel port should be tied to a specific date on the true development
> branch?
>
> I am only interested in calling a spade a spade here to reduce
> confusion. If the NGINX project called "mainline" "development" there
> wouldn't be a problem. But it seems that this is a distinction that
> FreeBSD has decided rather than using upstream terminology and
> thinking.
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Sergey A. Osokin <osa@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote:
>>> The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It
>>> is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the
>>> upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this
>>> port over the www/nginx port.
>>>
>>> I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here:
>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480
>>>
>>> Does this seem logical?
>>
>> Objection.
>>
>> The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and mainline.
>> New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes.
>> The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features.  This is why it has been
>> marked with '-devel' suffix.
>>
>> For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a software
>> product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' prefix.
>>
>> Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel port.
>> Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD ports tree
>> as well as FreeBSD operating system.
>>
>> --
>> Sergey A. Osokin
>> osa@FreeBSD.org



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