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Date:      Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:49:55 +0400
From:      Andrej Zverev <az@freebsd.org>
To:        Tom Hukins <tom@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-perl@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: announcement of future perl changes.
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Tom Hukins <tom@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:38:28PM +0400, Andrej Zverev wrote:
> > I'm sorry but I don't get idea at all. Why do i need argue on
> > perl5-ports? and I don't see how I'm trying to violate POLA.
> > Can you explain in more details, please?
>
> Thank you for your quick reply.  I apologise for my confusing reply.
> I'll try to explain better:
>
> You propose replacing major.minor.patch with major.minor for Perl 5 in
> FreeBSD's ports and packages.  If this change makes sense, why
> restrict it to these?  Why not share it with perl users everywhere?
>
You asking me almost same thing like: if we change PREFIX for port, why
don't share such information with other people. In reality I did not  hack
perl source code itself, all what i did is avaliable for all perl users
(via configuration).
Well, you can look at debian or fedora and maybe more distros which already
done such trick.


>
> Furthermore, by restricting discussion to this list, and not
> perl5-porters, you fail to validate your assumption that the patch
> level of the version number will never include API/ABI changes.

My patch only change directory (part of it) where perl will be installed.
Every other aspects still remain (binary name and etc).
perl5-porters don't need to be involved.


>  If
> you haven't validated this assumption, what do you plan to do if it
> turns out to be false?
> tt


> As for POLA, perl users everywhere will expect major.minor.patch
> because it's how perl installs itself.  If FreeBSD changes this for
> ports and packages, we become a not-quite-perl ghetto that subtly
> forks the standard distribution.
>
 Hell no! :-) In your terms this mean we do violating POLA with every perl
upgrade.


>
> I hope I have expressed my concerns better this time.
>
hope same from my side. I think that your fears are meaningless.
This change can only  lead to simplify all freebsd users life, but not
inverse.

>
> Tom
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