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Date:      Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:38:54 +0100
From:      "Florent Thoumie" <flz@xbsd.org>
To:        "Philip M. Gollucci" <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, Olafur Osvaldsson <osvaldsson@icelandic.net>, pgollucci@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@freebsd.org>, araujo@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ports/125625: [PATCH] dns/nsd: USE_RC_SUBR != yes
Message-ID:  <a01628140807230838g3c23f742j5ca510dda0177291@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <48874AB6.6080604@p6m7g8.com>
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Philip M. Gollucci
<pgollucci@p6m7g8.com> wrote:
> Florent Thoumie wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@freebsd.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:08:03 +0100
>>> "Florent Thoumie" <flz@xbsd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Olafur Osvaldsson
>>>> <osvaldsson@icelandic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is something the PR responsible introduced in his original
>>>>> patch...
>>>>
>>>> It's still present in your version. Anyway, I'm not blaming anyone,
>>>> just pointing out what I think is a mistake.
>>>
>>> So this is not for the user but for the port?
>>>
>>> I'll do a swap on the tree for it, because I'm sure there are more
>>> ports doing something like:
>>> .ifndef(NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES)
>>> ......
>>> .endif
>
> I was talking to itectu@ about this, and figured it would be better in
> Mk/bsd.port.mk.
>
>
>> The general rule of thumb is: if it doesn't begin with WITH_ or
>> WITHOUT_, it's not user-settable. NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is used for
>> ports using imake that don't understand the install.man target.
>
> /me thought that was the USE_ vs WITH(OUT)?_ difference.
>
> NO* is supposed to be user settable right ?

Have a look at variables in bsd.port.mk. You should have your answer.

>> Now of course there are exceptions (usually for no good reason IMHO).
>> The likes of NOPORTDOCS/NOPORTEXAMPLES/... could be changed to
>> WITHOUT_DOCS/WITHOUT_EXAMPLES, it's just waiting for somebody to do
>> the work.
>
> Heh, maybe, I kind of feel like it will get reject as a style(9) change.

This is not a gratuitous change. The issue isn't to get it approved,
it's to get the work done.

Not having coherent namespaces leads to people using USE_GNOME=yes in
/etc/make.conf and wondering why every single port depends on gnome.

-- 
Florent Thoumie
flz@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD Committer



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