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Date:      Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:13:21 -0500
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        Erik Osterholm <freebsd-lists-erik@erikosterholm.org>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Do you use a value other than AUTO for network_interfaces?
Message-ID:  <20090603141321.GC28486@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090602230648.GB88740@barragry.com>
References:  <4A257B82.1000701@FreeBSD.org> <20090602230648.GB88740@barragry.com>

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On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 06:06:48PM -0500, Erik Osterholm wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 12:20:34PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > Up till Sunday in 8-current, and for a long time in general
> > network.subr (part of the rc.d system) has emitted a warning that
> > values of network_interfaces other than AUTO are deprecated. I
> > removed that warning in HEAD Sunday, and there is no a discussion
> > about whether or not it should be put back, and whether or not there
> > is any need for the user to specify the list of network interfaces
> > at all.
> >=20
> > If you use a value of network_interfaces other than AUTO please
> > speak up so that we can make an intelligent decision about this
> > issue.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > Doug
>=20
> I'll have to preface this by disclosing that I have not been running
> -current, nor following any changes to the RC system.
>=20
> In 7.1, if you compile a custom kernel and comment out an interface
> (such that it is compiled as a module), one way to ensure that the
> module is loaded is to explicitly list it in network_interfaces.  If
> -current works the same way, then users will be required to modify
> /boot/loader.conf in order to load the module.  Could there could be
> possible side-effects to this change, since the loading of the module
> happens at a different time?

Do you actually do this?

> At best, users doing things the 'network_interfaces' way may be in for
> a surprise when the update (remotely), and this may be worthy of a
> note in UPDATING.
>=20
> If this has changed in 7.2 or -current, then I apologize for the
> noise!

The deprecation is a change relative to 7.0, but was in 7.1.

-- Brooks

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