Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:10:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Michael Robinson <robinson@public.bta.net.cn> To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: green threads vs. native threads ... Message-ID: <199811190910.RAA01871@public.bta.net.cn>
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Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> writes: >> Would it be a moot point to ask for the FreeBSD kernel to support native >> threads? > >Sure. Patches to implement them are gladly accepted. Oh, you mean >forcing someone to implement threads in FreeBSD? Naw, that's not the >way it's done. New features get done because someone thems to be done >and does them. That's one way of looking at it. Here's another way of looking at it: "A good example of keeping sight of the larger picture is FreeBSD's attitude towards its Linux emulation. It's not only very important to us that FreeBSD continues to run Linux binaries effectively, it's also what we suggest to those ISVs who are coming back somewhat cautiously to this "new" Unix market and obviously want to maximize their gains while minimizing risk. We tell them to port to Linux and not FreeBSD, even though we'd certainly love to have native binaries for anything and everything, and, by telling them to port to Linux first (or at all), we are giving them the best advice on how to get access to the widest possible segment of the free software market, one which includes but is not limited to us." -Jordan Hubbard ( http://editorials.freshmeat.net/jordan980713/ ) As I mentioned in the part you cut out, Linux emulation is increasingly broken in FreeBSD as more software comes to rely on Linux native threads. If it is, in fact, "very important to us that FreeBSD continues to run Linux binaries effectively" (whoever "us" is), I would recommend to "us" that cooperating on a native threads solution be given a higher priority. Otherwise, FreeBSD will *not* be part of the free software market that developers get access to when they follow Jordan's advice. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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