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Date:      Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:47:39 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r352093 - head/x11/startup-notification
Message-ID:  <20140425094739.GC38988@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140425114227.37f2c3db@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
References:  <201404250738.s3P7c2CV097634@svn.freebsd.org> <20140425111327.3e351b84@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20140425092011.GB38988@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140425114227.37f2c3db@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>

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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:42:27AM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:20:12 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:13:27AM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> Modified: head/x11/startup-notification/pkg-plist
> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >>> --- head/x11/startup-notification/pkg-plist	Fri Apr 25 07:34:14 2014	=
(r352092)
> >>> +++ head/x11/startup-notification/pkg-plist	Fri Apr 25 07:38:01 2014	=
(r352093)
> >>> @@ -5,9 +5,9 @@ include/startup-notification-1.0/libsn/s
> >>>  include/startup-notification-1.0/libsn/sn-util.h
> >>>  include/startup-notification-1.0/libsn/sn.h
> >>>  lib/libstartup-notification-1.a
> >>> -lib/libstartup-notification-1.la
> >>>  lib/libstartup-notification-1.so
> >>>  lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0
> >>> +lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0
> >>>  libdata/pkgconfig/libstartup-notification-1.0.pc
> >>>  @dirrm include/startup-notification-1.0/libsn
> >>>  @dirrm include/startup-notification-1.0
> >>=20
> >> It's probably better to use libtool:keepla here.  There are too many
> >> ports that depend on this port with .la files that may refer to
> >> libstartup-notification-1.la.
> >>=20
> >> I've been thinking if it would be possible for pkg to register .la fil=
es
> >> (and their references to other libraries) like it does with .so files.
> >> Then you could find out if there are references lurking in other ports
> >> with pkg rquery.
> >=20
> > Concerning gnome related ports like this one I'm pretty confident about=
 removing
> > the .la as upstream jhbuild continuous integration system expect everyt=
hing to
> > be install without .la, so almost nothing should expect to find the .la=
 here.
>=20
> The problem is that it was previously there so other .la files now contain
> references to it.  For instance on my xfce system:
>=20
> % grep -Rl libstartup-notification-1.la /usr/local/lib/*
> /usr/local/lib/libstartup-notification-1.la
> /usr/local/lib/libwnck-1.la
> /usr/local/lib/libxfce4kbd-private-2.la
> /usr/local/lib/libxfce4ui-1.la
> /usr/local/lib/libxfsm-4.6.la
> /usr/local/lib/thunarx-2/thunar-uca.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libactions.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libapplicationsmenu.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libclock.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libdirectorymenu.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/liblauncher.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpager.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libseparator.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libshowdesktop.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libtasklist.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libwindowmenu.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libclipman.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4dict.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/session/splash-engines/libbalou.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/session/splash-engines/libmice.la
> /usr/local/lib/xfce4/session/splash-engines/libsimple.la
>=20
> The problem is that when I update x11/startup-notification now these
> references go stale.  If I then update a port that links with libwnck-1.la
> for instance using libtool, that will be broken because libtool cannot
> find libstartup-notification-1.la.

I haven't tought about this case (only inpacting people live building not b=
inary
package and that an exp-run cannot find)

Ok I'll add :keepla
>=20
> > concerning registering the .la that will be quite complicated because a=
s far as
> > I know, no trace of .la is left inside the resulted binaries, but if yo=
u think
> > about a clever way, I'm not against it :)
>=20
> No, you need to scan the .la files itself just like you scan .so files.
> Think of an .la file as a library on its own.  A package can provide .la
> files and it can have other .la files as dependencies.  We're trying to
> get rid of these .la dependencies, but it would be nice to have a way to
> detect them.

Ah right I'll see what I can do

regards,
Bapt

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