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Date:      Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:44:34 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.oberon.net>
Cc:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast
Message-ID:  <426D0252.5050805@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050425144108.GK91852@voodoo.oberon.net>
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Kirill Ponomarew wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 07:42:54AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> 
>>>According to gcc-4.0 release notes, compilation speed for C++ was
>>>dramatically increased, up to 25% IIRC.  I think 4.0 is good
>>>candidate for merging into HEAD.
>>>
>>>-Kirill
>>
>>Is this work that you plan on doing for us?  What about the deprecated
>>language constructs in 4.0?  What about the lack of exposure that it's
>>had outside of the FSF and Apple development circles?
> 
> 
> No, I'm not going to do it because of lack of knowledge, there are
> people who have more experience with it than me.
> 
> -Kirill

Well, as I said in another email, switching to GCC 4 just because of
dubious "25% faster" (faster at what?  compiling?  resulting generated
code?  crashing?) claims in the changelog is not a terribly good
reason =-)  It seems that every time GCC claims to get "faster", our
buildworld times increase by 10%.  Maybe the generated code is better
and faster, but it's no secret that gcc spends a lot more CPU cycles
on code genreation and optimization than it did in the 2.x series.
Note also that the GCC 4.0 changelog mentions that the -O0 flag is
faster; that's wonderful, but has no practical value to real people.

Scott



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