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Date:      Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:36:58 -0500
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r267233 - in head: . bin/rmail gnu/usr.bin/binutils/addr2line gnu/usr.bin/binutils/nm gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objcopy gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump gnu/usr.bin/binutils/readelf gnu/usr.bin/...
Message-ID:  <5394D77A.2070709@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <5394C8C5.1090401@mu.org>
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On 6/8/2014 3:34 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On 6/8/14 1:13 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> Hello;
>>
>> El 6/8/2014 2:14 PM, Alfred Perlstein escribi=F3:
>>>
>>> There has to be a way to call out what works and what doesn't work an=
d
>>> form a transition from a world with no ASLR to one with some ASLR and=

>>> eventually one with almost entirely ASLR coverage.  I'm not sure it c=
an
>>> be done in one fell swoop.  Hooks like this in -current allow for thi=
s
>>> to be done as a group effort.
>>>
>>> It would be very unlikely that we retain the semantics all the way un=
til
>>> a -stable release.
>>>
>>
>> I am not (yet) criticizing the patches to the build system as I want
>> to preserve my innocence ;) ... but perhaps if the semantics are not
>> finalized this should be done in a branch. It is my opinion that in
>> general we are not using SVN branches as much as we should.
>>
> IMO branching is great for something that causes instability, known
> performance issues or won't build.  This is not the same as "changes
> build system".
>=20
> Putting things like this on branches is likely a good way to imo kill
> discussion.
>=20
> Right now we have discussion, it's rather healthy.  Let's take a while
> to think about this before saying this all should be done in a branch.
>=20
> -Alfred

Yes doing this in a branch would be great if the 2 contributors doing
all the work had bits, and if other people critical of their work would
be willing to help as well. Alas we don't give bits in these cases so
we're stuck with me proxying and them getting little feedback except the
big demotivating message from this commit.

--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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