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Date:      Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:03:08 +0200
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Joerg Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de>, arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man Makefile man.c src/etc/mtree BSD.local.dist BSD.usr.dist BSD.x11-4.dist BSD.x11.dist
Message-ID:  <20020117100308.B27310@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <p05101217b86b93b7e1cd@[128.113.24.47]>
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020116145639.73036A-100000@fledge.watson.org> <p05101217b86b93b7e1cd@[128.113.24.47]>

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On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:09:37PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
>   (I am bcc:-ing this to cvs-committers and cvs-all, with the idea
>   that this discussion is also going on in freebsd-arch and thus we
>   could drop it from those two cvs lists...)
> 
> At 3:00 PM -0500 1/16/02, Robert Watson wrote:
> >I'm happy with the behavior being available and turned off by default,
> >but personally my feeling is that the performance/correctness tradeoff
> >leans towards correctness given the risk.  And to be honest, people
> >don't usually benchmark systems based on the time it takes to render
> >a man page.  :-)
> 
> But it is one of those things that will make the system "seem slower"
> to them, in day-to-day use.
> 
> I think the security issue is a good enough reason to turn off the
> current behavior of 'man', but I do wish there was some middle-ground
> option which was between 'zero cat pages on disk' and 'automatically
> generate all cat pages for all existing man pages'.
> 
periodic.conf(5)'s weekly_catman_enable=YES seens to be a good option
here, no?

> In my case, I have about a dozen man pages that I reference a lot, and
> a lot of man pages that I never reference.  If something could keep
> track of which pages were actually referenced a lot, then some system
> daemon could generate cat-versions of just those man pages.
> 
catpages take less space than manpages, so I don't see a reson to
fine grain this.  For tonight's -CURRENT:

du -skc /usr/share/man/man* | tail -1
7800    total
du -skc /usr/share/man/cat* | tail -1
6599    total


Cheers,
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