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Date:      Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:39 +0100
From:      Joel Dahl <joel@freebsd.org>
To:        Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>
Cc:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Wojciech A. Koszek" <wkoszek@freebsd.czest.pl>
Subject:   Re: Enhancing the user experience with tcsh
Message-ID:  <20120212081239.GH85504@goofy01.vnodelab.local>
In-Reply-To: <CAH8WUys07JzzrdShW%2Bm=VQwgawu1%2BspjQLi3%2BeMGcQLzc92qwg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12-02-2012  4:05, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Joel Dahl <joel@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On 10-02-2012  9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> Picking a random person to reply to.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> >> remember a few things:
> >>
> >> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
> >> - Many users will get annoyed by what is someone else's amazing setup
> >
> > With the above in mind, I suggest we change as little as possible from what
> > we have today (for now) and that we do improvements in small steps.
> >
> > I believe 99.99% of all users would find the change below to be a definite
> > improvement over the current default values in .cshrc:
> >
> > Index: dot.cshrc
> > ===================================================================
> > --- dot.cshrc   (revision 231507)
> > +++ dot.cshrc   (working copy)
> > @@ -24,8 +24,10 @@
> >        # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
> >        set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# "
> >        set filec
> > -       set history = 100
> > -       set savehist = 100
> > +       set history = 1000
> > +       set savehist = (1000 merge)
> > +       set autolist
> > +       set autoexpand
> >        set mail = (/var/mail/$USER)
> >        if ( $?tcsh ) then
> >                bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word
> >
> > Also, a comment pointing to /usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh would
> > be a nice addition to the default .cshrc.
> >
> > --
> > Joel
> 
> Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all
> users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful?

You're missing the point. We need to start with something small that we
all can agree on. We'll never reach consensus if we're trying to change
too much at once (just check the amount of messages this topic has created
already).

-- 
Joel



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