Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:01:45 -0700 From: Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@macguire.net> To: rob <rob@pythonemproject.com> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Bob Bomar <bulldog@fxp.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: overclocking and freebsd Message-ID: <20020412170145.E9962@rain.macguire.net> In-Reply-To: <3CB770F2.3043929E@pythonemproject.com>; from rob@pythonemproject.com on Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 04:42:42PM -0700 References: <20011110215343.C961@bsd.alexe.org> <20020411182041.H45395@darius.2y.net> <20020411200534.A25472@ns.museum.rain.com> <20020412042041.GA80748@peitho.fxp.org> <20020412144054.GB2610@hades.hell.gr> <3CB770F2.3043929E@pythonemproject.com>
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* rob (rob@pythonemproject.com) [020412 16:44]:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >
> > [Moved to -chat since this is no longer a "question" :)]
> >
> > On 2002-04-12 00:20, Bob Bomar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FreeBSD pushes the hardware pretty hard as it is. I would bet you
> > > > a dozen doughnuts that FreeBSD at 850 MHz will outperform Win2k at
> > > > 1 GHz.
> > >
> > > I will actually prove that. My P-166 running 4.4-Release, apache,
> > > postfix, mysql, and DNS ran faster than my PII-400 running just a
> > > base Win 98. I mean faster as in, it started up faster, and it ran
> > > Star Office faster, did i metion that the P-166 was running X?
> >
> > That's a highly subjective metric though. My FreeBSD machine feels a
> > lot more responsive than those Windows XP machines with faster CPUs a
> > and larger amounts of RAM I've seen friends work on. But how does one
> > define an objective metric of 'responsiveness'?
> >
> > Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project
> > keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/
> >
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>
> I do a lot of number crunching, and FreeBSD (and Linux) usability beats
> Windows NT&2K by a huge factor when running ordinary applications
> overtop of a simulation. I think it is superior memory management that
> does it. Windows almost seems like its locked up in these situations,
> until the sim stops and then things go back to normal. Fortunately, I
> do not have XP to do that comparison :) Rob.
I'd like to take this opportunity to note that this is an excellent example of
how subjective usability measurements are to the task you're performing, and
how you've configured and tuned the machine in question. I've worked on
sluggish and speedy workstations of the linux, freebsd, and win2k variety. In
all cases a little intelligent tuning and understanding of what my task was
really doing to the machine usually brought usability to a reasonable, if not
better, state.
As we step into the performance comparison arena, we see a sign;
"Here be dragons. Tread on ye foolhardy and rehearse your laments."
--
Benjamin Krueger
"Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about."
- Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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