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Date:      Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:38:00 +0000 (UTC)
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
To:        Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Linux kernel compatability
Message-ID:  <20110106233726.M14966@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net>
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Jeff Roberson wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Warner Losh wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01/06/2011 07:17, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately it would create quite a lot of code churn as there are 
>>>>> relatively few that are minorly different.  You can page through the 
>>>>> wrapper code if you're interested.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/ofed/head/sys/ofed/include/linux/ 
>>>> 
>>>> One thing I am not too sure about is sys/ofed.  Given the entire
>>>> discussions it might well be better suited in sys/contrib/ofed under
>>>> the assumtion that the code is mostly maintained outside our tree and
>>>> we get in occational updates.
>>> 
>>> If you look at what Jeff has done, you'll see that the external code 
>>> follows our standards of residing in sys/contrib/ofed, while the code that 
>>> glues it into the tree is in sys/ofed.
>> 
>> I might just be too blind to see an ofed there:
>> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/ofed/head/sys/contrib/
>> 
>> It's rdma I guess.  It feels just awkward to have the glue in
>> sys/mumble rather than completely bundled in sys/contrib/ofed/** like
>> we do for ipfilter, pf, ... to my understanding.
>> 
>> The real glue into our stack, I assume, sits in net*/* mostly.
>
> That rdma was existing for iwarp stubs.  I expect it will go away when 
> chelsio finishes integrating with the ofed work for full iwarp support.
>
> I have the code in sys/ofed but it could easily be moved to sys/contrib/ofed. 
> That is probably more appropriate.  I was thinking just ofed as it was 
> another native network like netinet, netatalk, netipx, etc. It perhaps would 
> have been more appropriate to call it infiniband/.
>
> The extra directory is not a real problem either way.
>
>> 
>> 
>>>> I guess similarly things in user space might go to contrib as well?
>>> src/contrib is for code that's maintained outside the source tree that we 
>>> adapt.
>> 
>> Are all user space tools hand-rolled or are they ported over as well?
>> 
>
> All userspace tools are ported in contrib/ofed.  Only minor changes were 
> required to build on BSD.  We have a very complete stack.  I know of no 
> feature that is missing.
>
>> 
>> Maybe I should wait till Jeff will post the diff to see.
>
> I don't mind discussing the technical points further at all.  I just don't 
> feel I have any more to add about the more existential topics.

I think I am fine with what you are saying:)  Thanks a lot!

/bz

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