Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:03:04 +0200 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx> To: Randi Harper <sektie@freebsdgirl.com> Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy <advocacy@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Revamped Look 'n' feel: Feedback appreciated! Message-ID: <3F658048.5060304@401.cx> In-Reply-To: <D382ABFA-E757-11D7-8346-000393D46EC6@freebsdgirl.com> References: <D382ABFA-E757-11D7-8346-000393D46EC6@freebsdgirl.com>
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Randi Harper wrote: > On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 04:25 AM, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg > wrote: > >> Randi Harper wrote: >> >>> Just my 2 cents, but I love the site the way it is. It only takes me >>> 10 seconds to find whatever I'm looking for. People that judge >>> FreeBSD by it's website, well, they can go back to their flash and >>> glam Microsoft or RedHat sites. As far as I can tell, those people >>> are going to be the ones that ask questions on the questions@ mailing >>> lists without looking at the documentation first. That's about the >>> level of stupidity and laziness involved. >>> Randi Harper >>> sektie@freebsdgirl.com >>> http://freebsdgirl.com >> >> >> I have used BSD for over 6 years, I have done hundreds of >> installations, I manage a lot of mission critical BSD systems and I >> frequently *answer* questions on the questions@ mailinglist. >> Still, I have several times been forced to revert to linux or even >> windows based solutions, simply because I was not able to impress the >> corporate suits enough to make them choose BSD. If you have ever been >> up against the commercial powers of linux or m$, you would know that >> the freebsd.org website will probably set you back several points >> instead of helping you promote your beliefs. >> >> Agreed, a lot of the people we scare away are probably the lazy and >> stupid ones you describe, but keep in mind that they are not the only >> one that gets scared away. Corporate suits are often very easily >> convinced by nice layouts and a flashy first impression, and after all >> they are the ones making the big decisions. >> >> -- >> R > > I disagree. I work for one of the larger web-hosting companies out > there, and we have a large number of FreeBSD solutions. I've only worked > at one company that didn't use FreeBSD, and they were a small startup > that dealt a lot with java (3 years ago). I'm not going to say "if your > company doesn't like FreeBSD's website, find a new job", because I know > how few and far between good jobs are, but the website isn't the end all > for presenting a new solution. I suggest pie charts, or things that > blink. :) > > Good lord, I just used the word "solution" twice in one paragraph. Maybe > I do belong with the suits. > > > Randi Harper > > sektie@freebsdgirl.com > http://freebsdgirl.com I work for one of the largest callcenter companys in Europe, and we do have a significant number of FreeBSD installations. Still, I cant help feeling we would rely more on FreeBSD if it just had a more proffesional image. Pie charts and blinking things only goes that far, being able to show a good looking website would help alot, especially when youre up against Red Hat or SuSe. And honestly, FreeBSD have a lot of advantages to show, the only problem is that we do not use them as effectively as we could. -- R
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