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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:01:56 +0100
From:      "Jamie Heckford" <jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk>
To:        "Matthias Andree" <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release
Message-ID:  <079f01c216b7$8fa69340$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD>
References:  <5.1.0.14.2.20020617112839.030a9ff8@popmail.ct.lodgenet.com><20020617204825.GC25616@leviathan.inethouston.net> <m3znxs7t31.fsf@merlin.emma.line.org>

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I jumped back to 4.5 earlier, installing 4.6-R with 120GB IDE drives (1x
40GB, 3x 120GB) and the system
wouldn't boot.

Came up with a page fault and fatal trap 12, i'll try grab some output and
repost.

Thanks,

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Andree" <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release


> "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:38:01AM -0500, John Prince wrote:
> >> I have to say, I am a bit disappointed in the 4.6 release, as well as
the
> >> way problems have been identified, and swept under the carpet..
> >
> > Why didn't you express these concerns for the past few months?
>
> There have been several reports of ATA and ATAPI brokenness after the
> MFC.
>
> After I brought the TCQ brokenness up again at 4.6-RC time, Søren fixed
> the boot panic I experienced, and in late May he wrote he could
> reproduce the other known TCQ-timeout-and-fall-back-to-PIO problem, but
> I've never seen anything since. But what is bringing up a known problem
> again of help? Do you want people to scream their problem list every
> week? The PRs are there, and are open, so you cannot say these concerns
> had not been expressed. They have indeed.
>
> And I agree with those who say that 4.6 should NOT have been released
> with ATA(PI) in /this/ shape.
>
> I have been told (on this list) by the RE team that the MFC cannot be
> backed out and that 5.0DP2 is close, and I understand they want to keep
> the schedule as good as possible, but all these objections do not help
> the regression or displeasing users. And the latter is a Bad Thing®.
>
> --
> Matthias Andree
>
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