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Date:      Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:06 -0400
From:      Etienne Robillard <robillard.etienne@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system
Message-ID:  <20080921091706.7dc735cf@fluke>
In-Reply-To: <20080321143500.1a0e4ef6@anthesphoria.net>
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:35:00 +0100
Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 <nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net> wrote:

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>=20
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:49:05 +0100
> Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> =20
> > In the past we've even talked about how to move all of pkg_* out of
> > src and into ports, i.e. the opposite case.
>=20
> A propos (non-)removing pkg_* into the ports, what do you people think
> of introducing bin-install ports make target (similar to what pkgsrc
> has)? Besides, bin[-install]-fetch[-recursive] come to mind as well.
> IMHO, this would have nice pedagogical and heuristic effect since it
> could
>=20
> 1) resolve eternal users' confusion on what is the "difference between
>    ports and packages" and "between 'make install' and 'pkg_add'": it's
>    different if a package is actually installed by e,g.
>      cd /usr/ports/lang/python ; make [BIN_PKGSITES=3D...] bin-install
>=20
> 2) parallelise binary-install/compiling/local-package-building logics;
>=20
> 3) simplify things since it would cut proliferation of similar
>    command-line options and utilities/methods that do the same thing.
>=20
> Best regards.
> - --=20
> Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 =3D =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0=
=B5=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B
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I like the 'make update' target as implemented in OpenBSD. Its then very
convenient to update a port when binary update is not an option.=20

my 2 cents,

- Etienne



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