Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:55:08 +0200 (IST) From: Nadav Eiron <nadav@cs.technion.ac.il> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> Cc: dg@root.com, pechter@shell.monmouth.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VAXen in FreeBSD ( was Re: Women in FreeBSD) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95-heb-2.07.990210175004.28744A-100000@csd> In-Reply-To: <36C1A9CF.8B744006@softweyr.com>
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > David Greenman wrote: > > > > >I don't think so. At least that's not my reason. I think it's a matter of > > >market segment it aims at: VMS aims at servers that need to run without a > > >crash for years, and that's what FreeBSD excels at as well. > > Funny, I got there through the workstations that need to runwithout > a crash for years avenue. If course, I used to work in UNIX work- > stations that used Oracle on VMS as a data store. That was a sick > (and stupid) thing to do, but not my call. > > > For what it's worth, I was a long-time VAX/VMS guy prior to getting > > involved with BSD Unix. > > And you're feeling much better now, right? ;^) > > > Several other core members also have significant > > amounts of VMS in their history. I'm not sure this says anything in > > particular, but I think it's interesting nonetheless. > > I think most of them ended up in VMS jr. -- Winders NT. At least, > most of the ones I worked with did. Good riddance to bad rubbish, > in most cases. They've almost finished the latest release of their > all-seeing, all-knowing security analysis product for NT, a port from > my original UNIX version. They were "on the verge" of releasing it > when I left the company 4.5 years ago, if that gives you any idea of > their level of productivity on NT. Some. When WNT came out I remember (was a VMSer back then) that DEC tried really hard to push it as being similar to VMS (with all the hype that goes with Dave Cutler, the HAL/IBM thing, etc.). Privately, even DEC said it will take NT 10 years to become what VMS already was. Since then, NT went in the wrong direction and, regretably, DEC (sorry, Compaq) seems to continue pushing it as an enterprise platform, which it is definitly not (a platform I mean - not even thinking of enterprise ;-) ) The people I used to work for on VMS still use it and are happy with it, but management pushes hard to move to NT. I hope they won't be switching anytime soon. > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com > Nadav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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