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Date:      04 Apr 2002 09:37:35 -0800
From:      swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
Cc:        trhodes@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: docs/36457: [PATCH] timed(8)
Message-ID:  <lvr8lv5pr4.8lv@localhost.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <20020403111353.5dcc5a97.darklogik@pittgoth.com>
References:  <200204020310.g323A2J41698@freefall.freebsd.org> <it4rit92n4.rit@localhost.localdomain> <20020403111353.5dcc5a97.darklogik@pittgoth.com>

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Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com> writes:

> If two or more time daemons attempt to access the same clock, temperal
> chaos will result. [better?]

Access is not a problem; it's updating the clock that's the problem.

The original author thought it best to explicitly note that "time
daemons" need not refer only to "timed", and I think it was a good idea.
How about removing "ntpd(1)" and saying something like "'timed' or other
time daemons"?  (We shouldn't presume ntpd(1) is the only other one.)

> In my opinion, saying timed(8) and ntpd(8) again would be nothing but
> repeating.

I don't see any repetition.  ntpd(8) is not mentioned anywhere else and
NTP was mentioned once in a very different context.

> I also feel its common sence, I
> didn't like the old sentence, but I really don't like what we are
> replacing it with.

Removing the whole paragraph wouldn't hurt much, but I always prefer
more than less.  But it's second sentence might even be bad advice since
the user might better have the OTHER time daemon not adjust the clock.
Maybe it should all be replaced with: "Problems are a likely result of
having multiple programs frequently updating the clock.  The -F option
can be used to prevent timed from updating the clock."

But as the PR was about fixing some grammar, I'll be satisfied if you
just want to fix that and leave the other stuff in AS-IS condition.

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