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Date:      Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:30:56 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Real-time alarms
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.19990918222636.047a1880@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <37E46478.6326218E@softweyr.com>
References:  <199909180612.AAA00597@harmony.village.org> <4.2.0.58.19990918093306.047917c0@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990918201409.047f9f00@localhost>

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At 10:20 PM 9/18/99 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:

>Too clumsy, it pretty much has to be a stream-oriented protocol.

Or something like syslogd?

>Can you
>image trying to generate an email message for ever open(2) call that
>failed?

No, but how about a compilation? Or a warning saying, "Looky here,
there's something going on; check the logs for details"?

>OTOH, it probably has to be a multicast protocol, because you may want
>notifications to go to multiple targets.  This was one of the major problems
>with SYS$AUDIT in VMS, all it did was append to the audit logs.  Of course,
>many vendors, including my former employer, made a good living developing
>audit log watchers that could make some intelligent decisions about what
>was appearing in the logs and generate mail messages, page people, etc.

I think that some combination of local logging, remote logging, and mail
notification would work. Again, these should be universal facilities.
People have many complaints about syslogd -- in particular, that it can
be a wonderful remote disk filler. Maybe fixing syslogd would go hand in
hand with creating such a facility.

--Brett




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