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Date:      Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:07:55 +0100 (BST)
From:      Nick Hibma <n_hibma@calcaphon.com>
To:        Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>
Cc:        Paul Haddad <paul@pth.com>, FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: USB/Orb/kue/iopener/filesystem corruption
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.20.0004050007010.662-100000@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20000404184022.A15164@netmonger.net>

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Why does this sound like the warning that is written in the manual of
the Iomega Zip drive:

	do not connect more than one Zip drive to the same USB host data
	might corrupted.

Or something similar...

Nick


On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Christopher Masto wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 01:27:25PM -0400, Christopher Masto wrote:
> > Regarding USB drives, I have been using the Orb "2.2GB" USB-SCSI
> > version with some success.  There do seem to be some serious
> > filesystem corruption problems, but I haven't had time to determine
> > where they're coming from.  I often get corruption-related panics
> > while trying to install packages, and fsck always finds a number of
> > serious problems and removes about a dozen files (from /usr/lib
> > mostly, so I'll eventually lose something important).  When I
> > download something large, such as XFree86, the file's checksum
> > comes out wrong and gzip fails with errors.
> 
> I tried this again last night.  I bought some new cartridges for the
> Orb drive, and installed -current on one, built a kernel, and
> installed quite a few packages by chrooting to it and pkg_adding them.
> Big things, like XFree86.  I then built a kernel and booted it on
> my laptop, using the Orb as a root filesystem.  Everything seemed
> to go well, and fsck found no errors.
> 
> I then took it home and did the same thing on my i-opener.  It seemed
> to work well, and I spent quite a bit of time trying to get X
> configured properly (at which I didn't quite succeed, but that's
> another story).  After a couple of hours, I plugged in a D-Link 650
> (kue) ethernet, and ssh'd to another machine, on which I started to
> FTP a few things.  After a couple of minutes, I got "kue0: watchdog
> timeout" and seemed to stop transmitting packets.  I unplugged the
> kue, plugged it back in, and got a panic (unfortunately I don't have
> the details at the moment.. I'll try to record them tonight).
> 
> Upon rebooting, the filesystem was corrupted.  I brought it back today
> to the same machine that I installed everything from yesterday, and
> confirmed it:
> 
> ** /dev/da0a (NO WRITE)
> ** Last Mounted on /
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
> UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=55632
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> CLEAR? no
> 
> UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=222216
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> CLEAR? no
> 
> UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=285768
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> CLEAR? no
> 
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> DUP/BAD  I=55632  OWNER=root MODE=100644
> SIZE=2623 MTIME=Nov  5 22:14 1994 
> FILE=/usr/local/share/bx/translation/CP437
> 
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> REMOVE? no
> 
> BAD TYPE VALUE  I=55632  OWNER=root MODE=100644
> SIZE=2623 MTIME=Nov  5 22:14 1994 
> FILE=/usr/local/share/bx/translation/CP437
> 
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> FIX? no
> 
> DUP/BAD  I=222216  OWNER=root MODE=40755
> SIZE=2560 MTIME=Apr  3 22:03 2000 
> DIR=/usr/share/zoneinfo/America
> 
> UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY
> 
> REMOVE? no
> 
> fsck: cannot find inode 222216
> 
> It happens with or without soft updates, by the way.  This time I
> happened to have them on.
> 
> I can conclude from this that it's not the drive or the media, and it
> doesn't appear to be the USB stack or umass driver.  I think that
> something, when using the kue driver at the same time, is causing the
> damage.  That's very odd, because I'm using the same D-Link ethernet
> adapter that I've used for months with my laptop, and didn't have any
> problems.  The only difference may be that they're compiled in to the
> kernel now.
> 
> Next time I get a chance, I'll try:
> 
>   Filesystem-intensive activity without using kue at all, then a
>   reboot and fsck.
> 
>   Loading kue as a module.
> 
>   Simulating the i-opener situation with my laptop.
> 
>   Getting more details on the kernel panic.
> 
> This is bizzare.
> -- 
> Christopher Masto         Senior Network Monkey      NetMonger Communications
> chris@netmonger.net        info@netmonger.net        http://www.netmonger.net
> 
> Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/
> 

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n_hibma@freebsd.org                                          USB project
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