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Date:      Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:50:52 -0800
From:      "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
Cc:        Udo Erdelhoff <ue@nathan.ruhr.de>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Official -doc freeze proposal 
Message-ID:  <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020302071734.A82120@blackhelicopters.org> 
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If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 11:20:06AM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> > [trimmed cc: list and subject]
> > 
> > I have had mixed feelings about the freeze before but this a very
> > important point.  I do remember some rather frustrated mails from
> > Jordan when problems with the documentation broke the release
> > building process again and again.
> > 
> 
> Well, it does help that we have a -doc member who is part of the
> releng team.  If we break it, Bruce will fix it.  Lucky Bruce.  :-)

Heh.  murray still wears a -doc hat too, and rumor has it that jhb was a
-doc person before he got seduced by the src/ side.  :-)

> Changes that do not directly affect the translation teams should be
> allowed.  This basically means typos.  We should directly notify the
> translation teams of these changes.

Fixing residual build breakage should also be allowed.

Three other points:

1.  For src/, the re team approves commits during a freeze.  But for doc/
we allow much less change, and we're a small enough group that we can
basically trust each other to Do The Right Thing (TM).

2.  Note that the doc/ freeze ends when the doc/ tree is tagged, and the
release notes "soft freeze" (== slush) ends when src/ is tagged. The doc/
tagging usually doesn't slip, and happens a few days before the src/
tagging, which may have slippage of days to a week.  So we can determine
the doc/ freeze date from the release schedule, and the release
documentation person can call the release notes slush based on the
general state of the world.

3.  Unbeknownst to some of you we've got a developer preview of 5.0
coming up.  Its working name is "5.0-DP1", and it is tentatively
scheduled to be cut around in late March or early April.  I intend to
implement the release notes slush for 5.0-DP1.  This might also be a
chance to try a "test run" of the doc/ freeze concept in a low pressure
environment (i.e. not a "real" release, so mistakes won't hurt too
much).

Bruce.




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