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Date:      Mon, 09 Oct 95 00:27:19 PDT
From:      Ben Jackson <bjj@sequent.com>
To:        bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   install of 2.1.0-951005-SNAP
Message-ID:  <199510090727.AAA13577@crg8.sequent.com>

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Someone recently gave me an Archive Viper 150, and I had to be at work on
Sunday, so it was the perfect opportunity to upgrade and get rid of the
pesky ahc scsi bus lockups that made it impossible to back up /home.

First, let me say (to Jordan?) that the install looks really snazzy.  I
was impressed by all of the new features.  I did run into a few bumps,
though:

	1.  When the boot floppy kernel boots, after uncompressing, it
	says it is booting the "kernelel" [sic].

	2.  after I selected my install media (UFS), the shell escape
	to mount it didn't appear.  I searched high and low for a way
	to get a shell (and even noted that `sh' was installed in /stand).
	I finally found it on VT3.  I actually tried VT2 early in my
	search, but it didn't have anything, so I had abandoned that line
	of inquiry.  this was really only necessary because I had the
	path wrong (after disklabeling and commiting, it worked).

	2a.  stty settings on root shell were wrong (eg ^? vs ^H)

	3.  re: (2), I was panicked momemtarily after my root
	partition had been newfs'd, and I couldn't get it to install
	the tarballs.  It might be clever to check and make sure that
	at least bin.aa is accessible before wiping out the previous
	installation.

	4.  ...which reminds me, the 'upgrade from 2.0.5' was a cruel
	trick!  I was disappointed to find it a nop.  As far as I can
	tell, now that I'm done, if I'd just been able to evade that
	newfs, and a few key config files had been spared (or converted),
	it would have worked.  sparing config files could be as simple
	as a 'initial config' dist that is conditionally extracted.
  
	5.  many dialogs of the "oops, info, we're continuing" have
	`<Exit>' at the bottom.  The first time I got one I spent
	some time trying to figure out how to avoid it, since in
	previous installs, selecting `<Exit>' always led to starting
	over from scratch.  I think `<Continue>' would be more
	intuitive.

	6.  when it couldn't find my install media, after asking if it
	should continue, it did regardless of my answer.

	7.  even dists which fail to install are deselected after an
	extract pass.

	8.  in the disklabel menu, the second column of partitions
	is messed up.  the areas that were hilited for me, and the
	number in the select sequence:

			1
			2
			3
		4		12	8
		5		9
		6		10
		7		11

	
	so if you moved from '7', it hilited the end of the first entry
	in the second column (which started as '*WAP', like it had drawn
	some bogus swap entry first).  12 wrapped to 1 and vice versa.
	If I edited the info I could see (which was in the obvious sequence
	in the table) while I was at `12', it modified the right thing.
	This made me pretty nervous that a commit would newfs something
	I didn't want it to.

	9.  disklabel zapped my bootblocks (which were custom to make
	the default boot device sd0 even tho it got the block from wd0).

	10.  timezone setting was kind of neat, but the most common
	options (ie NA/US) were buried due to alphabetical order.  after
	I gave the current time and selected everything, it presented
	me with a time that was one hour off (and several years, but I
	don't know what that was about).  It thought I had CMOS clock
	set at wall time.  now that my interactive restore of / has
	put /etc/localtime link back where I had it under 2.0.5, things
	are back to normal.

	11.  after first reboot, there is no /kernel, only /kernel.GENERIC

In general, as the GUI gets gooeyer and gooeyer, I dissolve more and more
of my stomach lining during an install (I just know one day that newfs is
going to go nuts and hit partitions I want to keep...)

BTW, all of this was via "custom" install.  I didn't see any of the quick
install or much of the system configure (tz botch convinced me to just do
it by hand).

Thanks all,
--Ben



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